Bug Reports: MAR2010b

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Re: Bug Reports: MAR2010a

J-M v2.5.5 said:
No, he doesn't.
I've had him bug at the window twice. He does get into position, as if he's going to say something, but he just doesn't. Then he stands there and won't move any further.
He also neglected to mention the elevator twice, but both times, he did give a reward once we reached the top.
All of this was not on [FN] by the way.

And he appears to be less likely to bug when there's less people in-game...

Also:
msc_MAR2010a_swimming.gif
Might want to add a func_monsterclip above the flooded storage basement.

msc_MAR2010a_CHAT_STEP3.gif

And everytime I start gatecity, I am greeted by:
msc_MAR2010a_gatecity01.gif

Followed by:
msc_MAR2010a_gatecity02.gif

Edit: Only now do I see it:
monstesr

Rest of that's easily fixed... Yet another example of why ye need MP tests though - never thought someone might go swimming before finishing off the elves upstairs.

Check yer msc/log_msdll.log next time Forsuth buggers out like that - see if there's any messages regarding a trigger or Forsuth (other than the "Line: 550 - { "{" following non conditional" error of which I r aware.)

Keldorn said:
Bolt/Arrow stacking is really buggy atm, you can't swap ammo types or drop all of your ammo without reconnecting, as it unstacks your bolts/arrows and leaves invisible stacks in your quiver when you try to put them in your hands.
Just assume any stack of bolts/arrows you pull has more than it says it does and will read correctly when next you reconnect, or if you fire enough of them off. Can't be fixed without a client patch.
 

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Re: Bug Reports: MAR2010a

Just assume any stack of bolts/arrows you pull has more than it says it does and will read correctly when next you reconnect, or if you fire enough of them off. Can't be fixed without a client patch.

I meant something slightly different.

Let's say you have 500 iron bolts in your quiver, which came from 100 stacks. You also have 25 blessed bolts in your quiver, but at the bottom.

If you attempt to put the iron bolts in your hands, you will take out 100 bolts, and have 400 invisible bolts in your quiver.

If you drop the 100 iron bolts, you will still have 400 invisible bolts in your quiver.

You can fire them, but you cannot drop them, or select them in your quiver.

Your quiver will show that you are firing blessed bolts when you are really firing iron bolts.

You have to reconnect/drop iron bolts multiple times to swap to the blessed bolts.
 

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Re: Bug Reports: MAR2010a

After patching to MAR2010a and then adding the MAR2010b .dll :

boom-1.jpg

In this picture I'm not actually holding anything in my hands (or alteast the GUI is telling me this) nor do I even have a north maul, or what looks like a great axe; on any of my characters. Also looks to be a pheonix bow, frost bow and heavy crossbow; these however, are in my possession (pheonix on my back, frostbow and hxbow in my quiver).

I'm not sure if this bug/glitch is patch related or if it is my character being corrupted.


EDIT: Forgot to add - this is taken from freshly updating the patch, joining a server. I havent used any tickets or the storage chest.

EDIT2: Upon reconnecting to a different server the models seem to be gone but I am still puzzeled.
 

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Re: Bug Reports: MAR2010a

Boom said:
After patching to MAR2010a and then adding the MAR2010b .dll :

boom-1.jpg

In this picture I'm not actually holding anything in my hands (or alteast the GUI is telling me this) nor do I even have a north maul, or what looks like a great axe; on any of my characters. Also looks to be a pheonix bow, frost bow and heavy crossbow; these however, are in my possession (pheonix on my back, frostbow and hxbow in my quiver).

I'm not sure if this bug/glitch is patch related or if it is my character being corrupted.


EDIT: Forgot to add - this is taken from freshly updating the patch, joining a server. I havent used any tickets or the storage chest.

EDIT2: Upon reconnecting to a different server the models seem to be gone but I am still puzzeled.

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Re: Bug Reports: MAR2010a

Is the damage on the new bows really suppose to be this crappy? I mean, its a lvl 30 bow that deals around 11 dmg max (does a few hits with 1 shot) at my lvl. What i mean is, frostbow/phoenixbow/orionbow are way better than these bows that just got added, they are simply junk with the current dmg they deal and a reward from the hardest map ever. I'm dissapointed. :|


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The_wall map final rewards sucks in 1 aspect. It only goes to the player on top of dmg points, the rest of the players who help beat the map get screwed over by wasting around 2 hours of their lives to beat something with no chance of a new reward in the end, i think the final reward should be delivered to more than 1 player, something of the kind: " 3 players up to 5 players in server, there's 2 item drops per run; more than 6 players the item drops would be raised to 3, this all related to dmg points of course and also a random offer from forsuth". I think that would be wise, if the map contains all the new items and only 1 player can get an item per run, thats crap in my opinion.
 

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Re: Bug Reports: MAR2010a

After using a Ushield, I often get stuck in slow-walk mode after i holster it. Fixed by reconnecting, but that's oh so risky.
 

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Re: Bug Reports: MAR2010a

Iirc, that happens whenever you put your ushield in a bag instead of on your back.
 

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That's annoying, right when we could see the back of peoples crests too...
 

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Re: Bug Reports: MAR2010a

Alright, according to what J-m said (and quickly turning in 3rd person) my male character had the female character 's breasts going through my armor. My head was also missing. >.>
 

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Re: Bug Reports: MAR2010a

You can no longer purchase a small sack from any shop, I checked all the town throughly, especially gatecity after reading the patch notes. Technically not a bug, but a major inconvenience when your seeking one.
 

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Re: Bug Reports: MAR2010a

I just finished another the_wall run, (and raaaaaaaaaaged because) Forsuth got stuck in the elevator again.

Plus he did this.

 

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Re: Bug Reports: MAR2010a

Iron Guardian still does not attack on palace secret, ran it twice he will sometimes run away instead of just staring at you stupidly but still does not attack.
 

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Re: Bug Reports: MAR2010a

Forgot to add:

My hand models turn into bear claws sometimes when I throw the BD.
 

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Re: Bug Reports: MAR2010a

Poison cloud no longer passes exp at all, except for the initial hit DOTs. Don't know about blizzard and Lightning storm though.
 

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Re: Bug Reports: MAR2010a

I can't seem to delete my 2nd or 3rd characters. (Not going to try to delete my first)
 

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Re: Bug Reports: MAR2010a

Ethereal dagger's first charge does not ignore armor, causing it to do the same, or less damage to armored targets when compared to a normal attack.
 

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Re: Bug Reports: MAR2010a

Breast patch. Improving MS one step at a time with three steps back. :D
 

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Re: Bug Reports: MAR2010a

Tried deleting my the_wall.bsp and downloading from RB's server(it works there), Forsuth still got stuck on the elevator.

Tried finishing without Forsuth alive, I got stuck on the elevator at the top.

(This was all done on nonfn, as I didn't want to do it on FN only to have it bug at the end)
 

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Great, elevators are just plain broken in multi-player in addition to the multi_manager/breakable... I suspect this maybe beyond my ability to fix. Dunno... Could convert the thing to a door and see if it behaves any better, but I doubt it.

Keldorn said:
I just finished another the_wall run, (and raaaaaaaaaaged because) Forsuth got stuck in the elevator again.
Just for the record, in my efforts to test that, I spawned 16 undead guardians (via cheats), and about a dozen fangteeh in the elevator with us - crouched on Forsuth's hat to fit in there with all of them, and we still made it to the top. ><

Probably going to work out some sort of "stuck" menu option for Forsuth...

Boom said:

Congratulations! You have found the MSC Ultimate Weapon... The Loreldian Swiss Army Knife!

Srisuly though, this is an old scramble bug. If it doesn't go away for ye, go make a rollback request in the FN section.

Is the damage on the new bows really suppose to be this crappy? I mean, its a lvl 30 bow that deals around 11 dmg max (does a few hits with 1 shot) at my lvl. What i mean is, frostbow/phoenixbow/orionbow are way better than these bows that just got added, they are simply junk with the current dmg they deal and a reward from the hardest map ever. I'm dissapointed.
Tend to aim low these days so I dun have to nerf later, but on the other hand, it is the same damage as the Phoenix bow at mid-range with various elements per 1/10th second of exposure, over the same radius, except in a traveling cone. They should, at least, be invaluable for dealing with high end archers. (But not elite Torkies, for elite Torkies wear those element resistant bikini's.)

The_wall map final rewards sucks in 1 aspect. It only goes to the player on top of dmg points, the rest of the players who help beat the map get screwed over by wasting around 2 hours of their lives to beat something with no chance of a new reward in the end
The exception to that would be the head of Ihotor, but I suspect it maybe easier to just scatter some random treasure chests throughout to help compensate the escorts.

SilentDeath said:
Iron Guardian still does not attack on palace secret, ran it twice he will sometimes run away instead of just staring at you stupidly but still does not attack.

Excuse me a moment... I have to go kill everyone within a five mile radius now. With a tooth pick.

P|Barnum said:
I can't seem to delete my 2nd or 3rd characters. (Not going to try to delete my first)

Make delete request in FN section. (I r having idear on how to fix this, but we'll see...)
 

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Re: Bug Reports: MAR2010a

Thothie said:
Great, elevators are just plain broken in multi-player in addition to the multi_manager/breakable... I suspect this maybe beyond my ability to fix. Dunno... Could convert the thing to a door and see if it behaves any better, but I doubt it.

Some people have the stuck problem with my door elevator that takes you to the boss room. Usually their only solution is to get killed by the boss or wildy jump up and down, hoping they'll magically get unstuck. It's an uncommon problem but it still occurs.
This message is for every lazy bugger who doesn't take the stairs: Jump RIGHT before the elevator stops at the top. That should stop you from getting stuck in it.
 

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Re: Bug Reports: MAR2010a

I was able to get the elevator to work with Forsuth in it on a listenserver.
 

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Like I said, never had it fail SP... Did it at least 30 times, often with aforementioned insane efforts to fux it up. Similar to how that breakable never fails in SP.

What I originally had in mind was another spiral, but I just plain ran out of brushes. Just can't add anymore to that monstrosity. Hence, elevator - which, sadly, didn't even leave me enough brushes to make a mountain view as you were going up.

Again, thinking some sort of stuck function... Teleport him to the top... Not much I can do about players getting stuck though. :/

Dridje said:
Jump RIGHT before the elevator stops at the top. That should stop you from getting stuck in it.
Ya know, I think The Trap has this same bug in SP - maybe result of old build. That's hard with the elevator in question though - being so huge and dark.
 

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The newer bows aren't very useful for taking out high-end archers either, as it is difficult to get more than two or three hits per shot at a long range, especially when you aren't on the same elevation(Might be because you can't see the sprite for the shots at all in multiplayer though), and because hxbow/neckhunter/phoenix bow/orion bow/blizzard/volcano/lightning storm are all just so much better at it.

They aren't unusable, and both the concept and the model of the bows are pretty cool, but the options above are just plain better in just about every situation I've seen ingame.
 

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Re: Bug Reports: MAR2010a

Thothie said:
Dridje said:
Jump RIGHT before the elevator stops at the top. That should stop you from getting stuck in it.
Ya know, I think The Trap has this same bug in SP - maybe result of old build. That's hard with the elevator in question though - being so huge and dark.
I had this stuck-in-an-elevator-once-you-reach-the-top-bug in unmodified Half-Life singleplayer (!!!) a few times. Also in HLDM. Just start crossfire and go up and down on an elevator a bunch of times. Never happens when you're going down, only when you're going up.

tl;dr: elevators that go up are not to be trusted, and really should not ever be put into maps.

Also, everytime someone joins my server on calruin2, the server crashes and I get this message:
msc_calruin2.gif

The map can load, but noone can join without crashing the server.

Edit: And - unrelated - I just figured out the best part of the patch! Basically, the_wall is so incredibly hard, that Zun, the stupid big-mouth-ninja-noob-abuser-wannabe-archer kiddie, will never get the new bows :idea:
 

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I'm sure Joe! will give him one out of the kindness of his heart. ;)

I've had a thought, and effort to fix, the elevators... I've only applied it to func_platform so far, but I've added a spawn flag you can check to have it adjust 16 units down after it reaches the top. Not sure how it'll work in multi player though. Does have the side effect that when the elevator goes back down, it goes 16 units too far, but it still functions that way, and doesn't seem to fubar it when it goes up again - we'll have to play with it and see.
 
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