Evidently apple ipod = camera

[Postal]

Ehhhhhhhh I don't even know, it shows up as a camera on a vista and xp computer and because of this I can't get into the folders and access my music (all the data on my computer was lost, so all my music is there and I'd rather not erase everything on my ipod), only the pictures that show up in 2 folders (Hell, my computer even lets me import em from there). Anyone got a clue as to how to fix this?

 

[Rickler]

you have to use iTrash for music management. or you can use mediamonkey which i use

 

[Tentadrilus]

Download iTunes, make it recognise your iPod, then enable the "Enable disk use" or something like it. That way, you can access the innards of your iPod by opening it through My Computer.

 

[Thothie]

...or get a real music player / camera that accesses through your USB normally, like it's supposed to, instead of trying to stop you from doing so in the name of controlling how you access your media. [/rant]

 

[Tentadrilus]

Sounds like someone's trolling before they've tried.

I've got an iPod, and I have no qualms with it whatsoever.

 

[Postal]

Download iTunes, make it recognise your iPod, then enable the "Enable disk use" or something like it. That way, you can access the innards of your iPod by opening it through My Computer.

Where would i find that in Itunes?

 

[Thothie]

Sounds like someone's trolling before they've tried.

I've got an iPod, and I have no qualms with it whatsoever.

You just plug it into the USB and it recognizes it as an external drive you can read and write to with no additional spyware (iTunes, etc?)

 

[Tentadrilus]

Where would i find that in Itunes?

In iTunes, after you've plugged it in, the device should appear along the side (under devices, surprisingly). Select your iPod, and it'll tell you all about it, like what you've called it and it's serial number etc. Then go down and check "Enable Disk Use" under "Options".

You just plug it into the USB and it recognizes it as an external drive you can read and write to with no additional spyware (iTunes, etc?)

Disk use is enabled by default to stop you accidentally deleting stuff while rummaging around in its innards. Also, if iTunes was spyware, they would have been sued to bits for breaking various trading rules. You may think that I'm just some brainwashed Apple zealot, but if you're calling iTunes "spyware" then you clearly don't know what you're talking about.

 

[Thothie]

Read the EULA, iTunes is spyware. So is Windows Media Player (any version past 9 at least) - are as a whole lotta other popular (and sometimes mandatory) programs. If it's in the EULA and made by a major company, yet has the same exact functionality as the spyware made by those little punks on the net, somehow it doesn't qualify. We "trust" Apple and Microsoft, and all their affiliates, not to abuse the full access we give them to our computers when we install these programs. By the WMP EULA - affiliates can even delete files off your hard drive, if they think you don't have the rights to them. And those 54 mp3 pirates in Italy who got fined $2.4 million dollars - all caught by iTunes.

...and if you were likely to accidentally kill your iPod by having direct access to it - wouldn't you be just as likely to do the same to your system's hard drive, which you always have direct access to? Tis obviously not the reasoning behind forcing you to go through their software.

 

[Echo717]

Read the EULA, iTunes is spyware. So is Windows Media Player (any version past 9 at least) - are as a whole lotta other popular (and sometimes mandatory) programs. If it's in the EULA and made by a major company, yet has the same exact functionality as the spyware made by those little punks on the net, somehow it doesn't qualify. We "trust" Apple and Microsoft, and all their affiliates, not to abuse the full access we give them to our computers when we install these programs. By the WMP EULA - affiliates can even delete files off your hard drive, if they think you don't have the rights to them. And those 54 mp3 pirates in Italy who got fined $2.4 million dollars - all caught by iTunes.

...and if you were likely to accidentally kill your iPod by having direct access to it - wouldn't you be just as likely to do the same to your system's hard drive, which you always have direct access to? Tis obviously not the reasoning behind forcing you to go through their software.

O.O That's horrible, they can make this spyware without getting prosecuted or consequences?

 

[Tentadrilus]

...and if you were likely to accidentally kill your iPod by having direct access to it - wouldn't you be just as likely to do the same to your system's hard drive, which you always have direct access to? Tis obviously not the reasoning behind forcing you to go through their software.

That's why hidden folders exist. And it's disabled by default because if you end up screwing it up, you can't fix it yourself like you can with a computer.

 

[Thothie]

O.O That's horrible, they can make this spyware without getting prosecuted or consequences?

There's no laws against spyware when the user agrees to it via the EULA. Indeed, most forms of spyware are perfectly legal, even if you don't agree to them.

That's why hidden folders exist. And it's disabled by default because if you end up screwing it up, you can't fix it yourself like you can with a computer.

Yes you can... Hell, I just fixed one of Lady X's friend's iPods a few weeks ago. You can download the sys files from Apple's FTP, or, in some cases, you can get a pin and hit the reset button, and it'll automagically restore them from its ROM. You know - the same as every other non-RIAA MP3 player out there that allows direct access and doesn't force you to use their spyware. I actually format my music player regularly, and it has the same hidden system file setup the iPod does (being a cheap, unprotected knock-off, with a lot more features). I just restore the files via my backup - although I could just as easily use the ones on the CD it came with, or those on their website. Only downside is that the player forgets what track it was playing last, equalizer settings, etc.

 

[Sabre]

From the actual iTunes End User License Agreement.

If I want to manufacture biological weapons with my copy of iTunes, I will, fascists.

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net ... =macs_cant <-lulz.

 

[Thothie]

Lolz... That's kinda become standard fair for all Apple software and hardware agreements.

Your friendly, open source, spyware free, GPL alternatives:
Real Player Alternative
Quick Time Alternative
iTunes plugin for Quick Time Alternative

You can also use WinAmp to communicate with your iPod. It isn't open source, but the EULA is at least under a bible's length. Kicks iTunes ass, in anycase.

 

[Tentadrilus]

Well, okay. You win.

You're still doing it the difficult way, though.

 

[Borya]

...or get a real music player / camera that accesses through your USB normally, like it's supposed to, instead of trying to stop you from doing so in the name of controlling how you access your media. [/rant]

QFT