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My character got corrupted, I waited some time and it worked again.
After some time I tried to join a server and found out that all my
characters are missing. I tried to click on empty space and spawned
as a low level character (not mine).

Any way I can fix this?

Steam ID : STEAM_0:1:12313832
Name : KEMPER
 

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I would suggest checking the new character's name as for an explanation as to what may have happened.
 

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Name's say U_CHEATED, but thats not true, I don't know how to cheat actually.
 

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I'm laughing right now...! :roll:
 

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Actually, having your 4 years old character's messed up for no reason is not that fun.

Rolling my character's back to when they were normal would be awesome...
 

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I've never heard of a falsely reported cheater in this game (credit to the system?? maybeh) So the safe bet is that if your characters were deleted because of detected cheating, you were probably cheating. In which case I don't think your characters are coming back.
 

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KEMPER said:
Actually, having your 4 years old character's messed up for no reason is not that fun.

Rolling my character's back to when they were normal would be awesome...
Actually was going to do that, if ye owned up to it. :/ Alas, lesson for another day I suppose.
 

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So can you make my characters work again please? I didn't do anything wich can be considered as a cheat.
 

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*sigh* Strike #2.

It's something you yourself warned the guy you were teaching to do it that you could get banned for, and guess what, you were right.

You can delete the characters and start over, but given that you can't admit to any wrongdoing, I can't admit to being able to restore them.
 

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Most likely you are mad at me for using chest bug that duplicates items
if you put your item in chest and drop it in the same time you might get
a copy of it... As for me its not a cheat as it doesn't ruin the game
atmoshphere, and (as its said in FN readme file) it won't result in a
faster leveling up (because I had all the items I needed for leveling).
(I can tell how exactly it works in PMs).

Also I don't remember 'teaching' someone about how does it work, maybe
I said a few times something like "wow take a look chest is buggy' or 'lol you
can copy items'. As for me I learned that bug myself, after watching other player's
doing it.

I didn't think this bug is that serious, so you I will get deleted, but if you restore
me I won't touch the chest anymore :/.
 

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Ninja mod edit?? Waiting on one :wink:
 

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KEMPER said:
As for me I learned that bug myself, after watching other player's
doing it.

So there's still more people who know about this? >_>
Making dupes of items is just redicolous, even more redicolous is seeing players with cheated items that can't even use them properly. So why even bother doing this if you just get caught and punished for the things you try to do.
 

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Borya said:
KEMPER said:
As for me I learned that bug myself, after watching other player's
doing it.

Who else did you see do it?

Can't remember the exact names, well I think one guy was named Pepsi (not sure). Anyway lots of players
know about the glitch, and I also don't understand why developers are so strict about such things, that as I said
can't affect the game.
 

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/facepalms at item duplication "not affecting the game".

One of your disciples made nearly two hundred duplicate items and spread them far and wide between mid November and the patch.

And Strike #3 for the "I didn't know it was wrong" approach.

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Tue Nov 16 13:08:45 2010> [STEAM_0:0:----] M----(0): can you get banned from duping
Tue Nov 16 13:08:46 2010> [STEAM_0:0:----] M----(0): ?
Tue Nov 16 13:09:08 2010> [STEAM_0:1:12313832] KEMPER(0): yes
 

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KEMPER said:
Can't remember the exact names, well I think one guy was named Pepsi (not sure). Anyway lots of players
know about the glitch, and I also don't understand why developers are so strict about such things, that as I said
can't affect the game.

believe it or not, this game does have a sort of economy, just go to the general discussion and look at the trade thread
 

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Thothie said:
And Strike #3 for the "I didn't know it was wrong" approach.

Where did I say "I didn't know it was wrong"? I said I didn't think developers would delete My
(not anyone's else) characters from a game that lacks players, just for using chest bug to make
item copys.
 

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KEMPER said:
and I also don't understand why developers are so strict about such things, that as I said can't affect the game.
Okay, less "I didn't know it was wrong" and more "I don't think it's wrong".

With over a thousand active accounts, we're not down to so few players that we're going to keep cheaters around, nor are we going to be in the foreseeable future, for once we did, we'd never get any real players on again, as no one worth having around wants to join a game full of nothing but cheaters. We'll readily wipe 10, 20, 50, or even 100 players to keep the field clean and open for new players. Twinking costs us far more players than anything else within the client's control, even without the cheats. Given the cascade effect of those you taught the cheat to (who we also banned), and those they taught to cheat in turn (also banned - at least those who abused it) that's a whole lotta cheat-twinking.

We held off going after them until after the patch, out of fear that word would get around that a fix was coming, and everyone would was prone to would cheat as much as they could before its release. (Although a few seem to have made a full time job of it as it was.)
 

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Thousand of active accounts? In what way are they active? I looked at the server list and saw 8 empty servers, thats what I usually see actually, when start MSC. In fact there is about 20-25 constant players, and newbies that join the game and usually (80% of times) just abandon it.

Actually I told only 2 of my friends about the bug, and they were like "whatever, msc is boring even with that bug" and they don't play msc anymore.

As far as I know about 30% of all the players used that bug at least once, and about 60% of all players know about it. I know 3 hight level players (900+hp) who exactly (100%) used that bug, so if you ban evryone who is connected to this MSC will lose most of its players.

You say you want to keep the game clean? If you ban evryone who cheats or abuses a glitch you'll keep the game clean from players.
 

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