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So me and my brother were playing the string of maps for Sykcastle so we could get some gold armor or some fgaunts but after like 2 hours (im lvl 24 and hes like 15) we made it to the very end, as the platform rose out of the ground we were shouting that we did it, then the chests didn't spawn, then we were furious. Has this happened before or does MSC just hate us?
 

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I happens all the time. Don't worry, MSC is your friend!
It's just some kind of broken anti-warp chest farming thingie I guess.
 

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The old chests always spawn if you warp, but there's new content and new chests that fails to spawn if you don't. That's what I heard, maybe I'm wrong.
 

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Actually true. If you warp appears, if start from lowlands, not :(
 

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J-M v2.5.5 said:
It never, ever happened to me.

Not even when I map warp to the Skycastle (without completing the other four maps).

J-M admits to cheating?

odd about what FER said though...its like..a reverse anticheat...
 

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Thanks for telling everyone where it spawns.
 

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Awww... I thought gold armor spawns in hera. The skycastle chests haven't worked for the longest time for me. Out of ~15 legit trys, the chests only spawned like 3, 4 times.
 

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ive never been to skycastle...

heh... ._.

ah.. :[
 

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I have seen them not spawn once out of 8 tries now... No one ever warps to Skycastle on my server, I can tell ya that.
 

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Thothie said:
I have seen them not spawn once out of 8 tries now... No one ever warps to Skycastle on my server, I can tell ya that.

One does not simply warp in to mordor!
 

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I never warp either but its a real pain to run through skycastle more then once when we both died like 5 times the first time
 

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J-M v2.5.5 said:
evilsquirrel said:
J-M v2.5.5 said:
It never, ever happened to me.

Not even when I map warp to the Skycastle (without completing the other four maps).

J-M admits to cheating?
Map warping is not cheating. It's just a matter of[* CHEAT removed *]. Good game.

Or
[* sploit removed * ]

Odd, what's the actual spawnchance set to on the chest entity? My server always spawns them no matter what route you take.
 

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J-M v2.5.5 said:
evilsquirrel said:
J-M v2.5.5 said:
It never, ever happened to me.

Not even when I map warp to the Skycastle (without completing the other four maps).

J-M admits to cheating?
Map warping is not cheating. It's just a matter of [* sploit removed *]. Good game.

Hmmm...So by changelevel-ing, you're working around what feature added by Thothie? Anti-something...Oh yes, anti-CHEAT! Map warping is cheating.
 

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Not just gauntleted maps. I'd also consider it cheating to warp around for quests. (Like how people used to do it on Shaddahar)
 

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Shaddahar has a fix for that, and I *think* it's working better than the standard gauntlet map security, so it's not a real issue.

Fixing the gauntlet map security is potentially problematic, but now that people have freaking posted cheats in the forums I'm going to have to take the risk and fix it. Hopefully it doesn't start booting out legitmate travelers, as it is a very hard thing to debug.

Odd, what's the actual spawnchance set to on the chest entity? My server always spawns them no matter what route you take.
100%
 

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I have this textfile on my computer named "msc_updates.txt", in which I copy + paste all of Thothie's update posts. Of course, the most recent one is the update log from the MAR2007a patch, but as you probably just figured, there is also way older stuff in there. All in chronological order, of course. May 22nd 2006 is the oldest date-stamped update log in this text file, and the update log of the update before that starts with:
Thothie said:
Many of you have noticed that my pathetic server is now the unofficial beta-test server.

I made this textfile in case I needed to look something up with ease. After all, finding things in a big text file is easier than looking through a topic that's 45 pages long.

Anyway, what am I ranting about? Oh yes, I needed to look something up. I just did a search on the keyword "gauntlet" in this quite huge textfile.

First result:
Something about fire gauntlets in the September 14th 2006 log. That's not what I'm looking for.

Second result:
Ah, bingo! December 2006 patch update log.
Listed under
Code:
- Major MS.DLL Changes: -
is:
Code:
Gauntlet map flag prevents players from joining gauntlet and boss maps out of order (no more free DA)
I don't see any mention of "anti-cheat measure" whatsoever. I can post the full (relevant) part of the log, if you want me to.

Third result:
In the same update log (December 2006 patch) there is a mention about upcoming ice gauntlets and lightning gauntlets. That's not what I'm looking for. Next.

Fourth result:
February 2006 patch update log.
Listed under
Code:
- AMX Changes -
is this:
Code:
- all modes prevent voting into gauntlet and boss maps
The "all modes" thing refers to all voting modes. Either way, no mention of "anti-cheat measures" again.

No more hits for "gauntlet".

I did not find the part in all the update logs since May of last ****ing year (actually even before that) where the gauntlet-map-warping-protection is considered an anti-cheat measure, Man In Black.

Could you show it to me? KTHX
 

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Ya get that in game nevermind, the changelog. I wasn't going to do anything, but I should wipe your character just for pretending to be so ignorant as to attempt to defend yourself against that accusation. You know full well you were bypassing an anti-cheat system, ya fraud. :p
 

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You might as well delete the characters of half the MS: C community for doing the exact same thing, then.

And I typed that previous post almost solely to piss off The Man In Black.
 

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I didn't even know you could do this to get to a map until you posted it
 

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Hey, while we're posting how to do cheats, why don't I just let ya'll know my idea for duplicating items? Or perhaps exploiting FN?

J-M = smart.
 
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