ATI's Come Back Card ?

[Jon]

Well it may seem that ATI is out of the graphics card race now, but I think they still have a few tricks up thar sleeves. Im pretty impressed with their new card...

http://techreport.com/articles.x/13967

I wonder if they will make a come back.

 

[Thraxis]

Honestly, if they have to produce 2 GPU's on one card to even hit the level of power One single GPU with older technology that nVidia does, I don't see them getting that much share back in the market part of the war. Gaining some face back with the ATI enthusiasts? That may be a different story.

I haven't followed the Graphics war for quite a few years, only coming back into looking deep into both companies recently (Sometime around last summer), so I could be dead wrong.

Competition however, is usually a great thing. So everyone can still win off this, with greater cards at lower prices, gamers will rejoice. I personally have just upgraded my computer to my old mobo's max at christmas. Next christmas the only thing I will be keeping is the monitor and 2 Gigs of ram. Hopefully by then, these insane cards will be more in my price range, as I not only have to grab one of them, but just about everything else as well.

Edit: Also, forgot to mention that I usually trust http://www.hardocp.com/ for my reviews of the tech. Not only do they cover standard computer technology, but also ease and performance of overclocking.

 

[Thothie]

When ATI starts supporting OpenGL proper again on their newer cards, and stops making cards that are rigged work only in Vista, I'll consider them again.

I suspect the company will go belly up before that happens.

They failed to shell another $6 million dollar bribe to Valve this year - notice all your content is now hosted by Nvidia? :roll:

 

[The Man In Black]

Are you implying that I shouldn't bother making it so that MS:C can run in other modes than OpenGL? ;-)

 

[Sabre]

Are you implying that I shouldn't bother making it so that MS:C can run in other mods than OpenGL? ;-)

Good enough for me. Green team ftw.

 

[Thothie]

No, cuz there are plenty of other cards that have issues with OpenGl. Particularly on-board graphics adapters, such as the S3 savage/chrome series, and the Intel GMA. So yes, DirectX capability would be nice.

Just sayin, unless/until ATI cleans up its act, their $400 cards are no better than those. In fact, some of them are worse – as all those will at least work in XP.

 

[J-M v2.5.5]

They failed to shell another $6 million dollar bribe to Valve this year - notice all your content is now hosted by Nvidia? :roll:

There is a free Portal demo (available through Steam of course) that's exclusive to people with nVidia graphics cards
I discovered this when I visited nVidia a few days ago and I was like:
"YEAH! Eat it, ATi, b*tches! Teaches you for making garbage graphics cards!"

I can't wait to see ATi go bankrupt. They've produced one failure (no SM 3.0 for a long time) after another (no DirectX 10 for a long time).

 

[DarkTerror]

Hahaha the 3870 is actually better than the 8800 (imo, also it beats the 8800 in terms of the prize/power (BY FAR)), + I got the blackbox games for free with my 2900 XT.

I discovered this when I visited nVidia a few days ago and I was like:
"YEAH! Eat it, ATi, b*tches! Teaches you for making garbage graphics cards!"

Eat that, Nvidia b*tches. Teaches you for making too expensive graphics cards, that gets beaten by a graphics card that is only half the prize (the 3870 costs 230 € here btw).

 

[J-M v2.5.5]

Somebody explain me how the 3870 would be 'better' than the 8800, please :|

 

[Thothie]

Eat that, Nvidia b*tches. Teaches you for making too expensive graphics cards, that gets beaten by a graphics card that is only half the prize (the 3870 costs 230 € here btw).

230 Euros? Let’s see that’s, what, about $345 USD? I just got my 8800 GT OC six weeks ago for $175 USD at Fry’s… Meaning – I could by TWO comparable, arguably better cards (better on a number of levels including the fundamentals), for that “half-prize” one you have there. >_> Hell, I could SLI em…

*sigh*

I want ATI to make a come back, I really do. As it is now, they are just living on kickbacks, and making every cut they can, and looked thoroughly dewmed. Without ATI to keep nVidia on it’s toes, it’ll get fatter and lazier, and the drivers will decline in quality at a pace never seen before. (Both ATI and nVidia seem to fux up their drivers as part of a planned obsolesce scheme). I dunno… Maybe M$ will come out of right field with some new wonder-chip GPU, or maybe Intel will make a real one instead of their craptastic GMA series, maybe Sony? (What does the PS3 use for graphics?) ... but no competition means the only viable cards we’ll be able to get, are going to start sucking balls fast. If all they have to do is keep their heads a notch above ATI - that's setting the bar pretty damn low at this point.

 

[DarkTerror]

The 8800 GT starts at 280€ here, and the 8800 Ultra at ~590€!

 

[The Man In Black]

Teach you to live in Europe

 

[Mikkel]

Well nVidia>ATi

 

[Blasto121]

What does the PS3 use for graphics?)

That would be a Geforce card named RSX 'Reality Synthesizer'

 

[Thothie]

The 8800 GT starts at 280€ here, and the 8800 Ultra at ~590€!

Ye said the 3870 is 230€ - this is not “Half-Prize” of the 8800GT, even in Europe, which although about the same generation, it can’t really compete with anyways. The 8800 Ultra is straight out of its card category (pulls double the FPS in most games or better, FFS).

Really sad is the fact that ATI has fallen so far out of favor, if you type up a search for “ATI 3870” on Fry’s or Newegg – ye don’t even see a graphics card. *sigh*

That would be a Geforce card named RSX 'Reality Synthesizer'

Blarg, no competition coming from Sony then… Someone’s just gotta make a serious play against nVidia. Kinda given up on ATI being the ones to do so. Graphics cards have been a two-party system for the past eight years, but we’re going to one-party rule right quick.

 

[Blasto121]

not entirely true, ATI can keep afloat with console deals, both the Xbox 360 and the Wii use ATI graphic chips. Microsoft can't ever use Nvidia anymore after the first Xbox where they ripped Nvidia off really badly.

ATI will pull through at some point, AMD just has to get there barrings straight.

 

[Thothie]

I hope so... I had to take back my last $2600 laptop because the damn thing's ATI graphic card wouldn't work in XP. The AMD CPU, at least, has been working out okay. (True of both the one I took back and the new one with the nVidia chipset.)

AMD's may not be the most bang for your buck at the moment, but at least they work with everything. (Which is actually an improvement over back in the day.)

 

[J-M v2.5.5]

no competition coming from Sony then…

What, you expect Sony to be competitive/productive nowadays ?

 

[Netrogor]

ATI was bought out by AMD, of course they can't operate purely as a video card company, anymore...
One of AMD's prized accomplishments is a super processor that'll use this "double float point" technology in it... supposed to rate amongst the top super computers in the world, in terms of processing speeds... and that was thanks to the research ATI had done for video cards, that they ported over to CPUs. Let them work on those... I would like to continue using AMD processors with NVidia video cards. For the time being.