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So i've killed this guy four times now. Two in a group, two by myself, and neither of the four times has he dropped ANYTHING. Now I do realize i'm quite the n00b and have next to zero knowledge of this game, however, i'm wondering is this normal?

You'd think he'd drop at least SOMETHING, even if it were just a potion of some sort. But four kills and not even a potion or a few gold seems weird to me.
 

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Before you kill him, mind you.

It's kinda cruel and unintuitive though. I r thinking of switching it so he's just invulnerable if you don't activate the seals.
 

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Omg, I hate myself. Why wasn't I informed, rofl. So. 3 seals, eh? They inside or outside his room?
 

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Look up. Not everything on the ceiling there is for show, and that little pit in the middle isn't just for entertainment. ;)
 

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Please don't make him invulnerable :( We can usually kill him quicker than the volcano, so all but one of a team can beat him down while the last gets the seals. Couldn't you just make it so he can't get below, say, 500 hp if the seals aren't active?
 

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Not sure how'd I arrange that... Be very odd if he got to 500hp, then you suddenly weren't able to hit him anymore. Hmmm...
 

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Add a crystal in the room that shoots an env beam at him at 500 HP to completely regen him. If it fires, it also sends a message that explains that the crystal will be destroyed if you break the seals (or something along those lines)
 

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J-M v2.5.5 said:
Let's gay up the map WHOOOH! While you're at it, add sea otters that do 300 damage per hit (through golden armor).

Complain more. FFS, I doubt you even play the map. Besides, it's making an easy map more challenging without affecting how noobs play it (if they play correctly).
 

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J-M v2.5.5 said:
If I am ever to release a map

And if I'm ever emperor, I'll care :roll:

Seriously, if you don't like the maps, don't play them. It's not making it harder in any case. Just making it so that you have to activate the seals before killing him, which you would be doing anyway if you were going for a prize -.-
 

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Well, the idea isn't to make it harder, it's to prevent nubs from killing him and going "wtf? - I get nothing?"

Since he isn't worth killing without a prize, midas well make him non-killable without going through the process to get said prize.
 

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This is what I am seeing. The vets are gaining higher levels, so to comply, they make harder maps; and we already have low level maps. If this trend continues, we will have a full range of maps from low to extremely high. So I am fine with how it is now, no real need in making it harder. But if it becomes that way, nothing like some more challenge.
 

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It isn't making the map harder >_<
 

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Yes it is - what about people who don't care about the reward and want to kill Garonhroth with normal weapons to gain XP? Hmmm?

Oh yeah that's right you are ****ing them up the ass.
 

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Well maybe a little harder, I can solo BS by using sword but if I am forced to kill him the *correct* way, it makes it harder (impossible?) to solo him.
 

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You don't have to KILL him with the volcano, you just have to activate it...Then you can kill him however you like.

And really, who kills the BS for exp? He's not exactly an exp bag.
 

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J-M v2.5.5 said:
Yes it is - what about people who don't care about the reward and want to kill Garonhroth with normal weapons to gain XP? Hmmm?

Oh yeah that's right you are ****ing them up the ass.

He's not worth killing for XP. He's worth a measly 400xp, and a smattering of gold - which is a tiny fraction of what you get for killing everything you need to reach his chamber. Not worth much, especially dealing with horrors and hazards. I don't think anyone has killed him for XP who knows how to get the items, lest they already have them.

And yeah, it's quite possible to kill him correctly solo, done it quite a few times... Twice with my FN character, and he's only level 27 (albeit, took forevah).

...spellinx
 

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Oh awesome. I stand corrected
 

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So are there still objections?

I can't do the crystal thing, cuz that'd involve a map recompile, and you know how I loathe redistro'ing maps...

I can switch him to invulnerable at 500hp (which might be good, as it'd make it more likely the volcano will do him in, as intended). Then... I dunno... I can go in with xyz and mark the positions of the seals, and have little lights come down from them, and kinda 'super charge' him, or... something.... Hmm... Kinda at a loss as to how to hint at those seals exactly.
 

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argh

Soloe'd this guy correctly on lvl 22 and again on lvl 25. Takes about 25 minutes to run the whole map, but I think i'm decreasing my lifetime by months over the stress I get from those horrors.

Jesus, I hate them. That blind thing with the blinking gives me seisures.
 
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