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[Borya]

So, I finally got around to doing Maldora without the help of Runegahr, when this happens. Now who the fuck do I go to for my 20k XP and the Lightning Toma back?

 

[Sabre]

Server crashed, thar.

 

[Borya]

That it did, cap'n.

 

[Keldorn]

Oh snap.

What server was this on?

Also, I can give you my lightning tomahawk once I'm rolled back, if you want it. (Can't be duping items now can we?)

 

[J-M v2.5.5]

Yeah it is pretty frustrating when that happens. Only consolidation I can give you is (and I bet everybody can see this one coming): 20 000 XP is not much.
Also, I was thinking about this recently: if MS:C had never crashed, for anybody, ever, I bet the amount of circulating rares would be double of what it is now. Ah well.

Good luck farming for ship anch... tomahawks

 

[Thothie]

Please go back to playing MSC 1.0 J-M.

I think you need to go back to the days when XP was real... When the meanest monster in the entire game was worth 200XP, and nothing spawned faster than once in 20 seconds. ^_^ Play that for a year or two again, or the ten years it'll take you to reach your current level in 1.0, then come back here and maybe you can have the right to complain about XP again.

In anycase, you probably got your XP, just not the weapon. Sadly, shit happens.

 

[J-M v2.5.5]

I think you need to go back to the days when XP was real...

Are you implying XP is imaginary right now ?

 

[Thothie]

I'm sayin it midas well be seeing as how easy it is to get.

Seriously, leveling the way you did before I started scripting for this game, I'm willing to bet it'd take about ten years to get where you are now, never mind beyond. If you complained about people leveling too quickly, I'd understand, but this endless b*tching about how I've nerfed the game beyond playability... You know, compared to what it was when I first got here, is just so far beyond bizarro-world ludicrous it makes me wanna cry.

Oh yes, and after creating all these thousands of new XP opportunities, trainable stats, godly weapons, and increasing the XP values for various bosses so many times over, how many times have I nerfed XP? Oh yeah, ONCE. On Lodagond... Where I multiplied the XP to compensate for lack of treasure - so it wasn't nerfed at all - rather it was just returned to normal - right after you deliberately drove away one of the best developers we ever had for exploiting that very multiplier in the very same way so many of your friends had. Did I ever get any thanks for the XP multiplier you endlessly complain about the absence of now? No... Any thanks for raising Keledros from 200 to 1000? Calrian from 200 to 1000XP? The Blacksmith from 200 to 2000? Atholo from 800 to 5000? The Ice Lord from 400 to 4000? Voldar from 100 to 2000? For, decreasing the time it would take you to reach level 35 from maybe 5+ years to, on average, less than 5 months? No, no, no, no, no, no, and again no.

Instead you just make it your personal duty to endlessly complain and drive away as many developers as you can.

And you wonder why I've given up and just started deleting your posts?

 

[Borya]

I had checked, it crashed at the exact right time to not register the XP being given, and while it may not seem like much, it's still the principal of the matter. It was a particularly frustrating run (I spent 90% of the battle literally pinned against walls), and all the work was for nothing, so I was rather quite pissed about it. It's fine now, I suppose, I'll probably try again later after stocking up on Stab Pots so the battle doesn't go nearly as poorly (although I'm sure part of the problem lies in my insistence of using only UGA to kill him, I don't really care for hxbowing him).

 

[J-M v2.5.5]

rather it was just returned to normal

Just for your information, Greater Minions of Maldora give 100 XP in lodagond-4 whereas their base XP is 500 XP (as seen in, for example, lostcaverns and ms_wicardoven).
I'm only countering this point of yours because it stood out the most; I'd counter the other points you made but I'm in a hurry right now. I hope you don't mind *cough*dark sword*cough*greater ice blade*cough*lightning rod*cough*demon claws*cough*Torkalath blade spawn location*cough*.

 

[Thothie]

Just for your information, Greater Minions of Maldora give 100 XP in lodagond-4 whereas their base XP is 500 XP (as seen in, for example, lostcaverns and ms_wicardoven).

Two words: Infinite spawn. Granted the other thought was to make each wave stronger than the next, until they were undefeatable, but we figured that was too hard, and it'd be better to just make it not worth camping.

I'm only countering this point of yours because it stood out the most; I'd counter the other points you made but I'm in a hurry right now. I hope you don't mind *cough*dark sword*cough*greater ice blade*cough*lightning rod*cough*demon claws*cough*Torkalath blade spawn location*cough*.

None of which would even *exist* if I hadn't been scripting.

If what I've done is so bad, go back to 1.0 before I started scripting. You know, when the meanest weapon around was the Perfect Skull Blade, you had 2 level'able spells, and nothing was worth over 200XP. Things were so much less nerfed then.

 

[zeus9860]

Calrian from 200 to 1000XP? The Blacksmith from 200 to 2000?

last time i did calruin2 the 1st boss apparently gave more xp than the blacksmith(if i remember well it was 800xp vs 600xp or 1k vs 800xp). Anyways im going to check that out sometime later and double check this.



EDIT: Both calruin2 bosses give 1k xp... :roll:

EDIT2: Just remembered the case with bloodrose's cave quest part, flesheater = 250xp (after you take him down 2 times + he has some serious amount of hp + regen rate), undead guardian = 300xp and i believe he has like ~300hp also?, slithar = 1.5k xp (must say slithar is an annoying pussy)... If slithar gives 1.5k xp and which he is really easy to take down when compared to flesheater, i think flesheater requires more xp even he is sort of a boss on bloodrose but guardians give more xp than him? Just like the case with keledros which is pretty good already but flesheater should be of the same kind in xp value relation between the undead giants out there in some maps (1k xp at the most). Another reason to do so is that comparing how lower lvls solo the map untill slithar (this 1 isnt a problem for many lower lvls if you know how to take him out) and flesheater requires assitance to make a lower lvl to beat it.

 

[Borya]

(crying about current rewards as opposed to getting rewards flatly denied)

Seriously just get the fuck out of my thread.

 

[Sabre]

(crying about current rewards as opposed to getting rewards flatly denied)

Seriously just get the **** out of my thread.

Your thread is a failure to start. All of us have lost items and XP to servers crashing, it happens. No need or point in making a thread about it, asking for XP that we cannot magically give out anyways, then b*tching out someone who posts in aforementioned thread on account of some vendetta to which the rest of the world is apathetic.

 

[Borya]

Ahh, so the peanut gallery has spoken! It's all good when folks go about doing their best to drive away the devs, but GOD FORBID anyone speak ill of anyone with a much higher post count than someone else!

 

[Thothie]

EDIT: Both calruin2 bosses give 1k xp...

Should be 2k... Meh, bloody script must not be recognizing he's on his native map (maybe I have it set for Calruin instead of Calruin2 or somethin...)

EDIT2: Just remembered the case with bloodrose's cave quest part, flesheater = 250xp (after you take him down 2 times + he has some serious amount of hp + regen rate), undead guardian = 300xp and i believe he has like ~300hp also?, slithar = 1.5k xp (must say slithar is an annoying pussy)... If slithar gives 1.5k xp and which he is really easy to take down when compared to flesheater, i think flesheater requires more xp even he is sort of a boss on bloodrose but guardians give more xp than him? Just like the case with keledros which is pretty good already but flesheater should be of the same kind in xp value relation between the undead giants out there in some maps (1k xp at the most). Another reason to do so is that comparing how lower lvls solo the map untill slithar (this 1 isnt a problem for many lower lvls if you know how to take him out) and flesheater requires assitance to make a lower lvl to beat it.

The monsters around them, just beyond them, what's required to get to them, how exploitable they are, and the treasure they drop (or don't drop) are all also taken into account when determining XP.

In anycase, I strongly suggest getting a copy of MSC 1.0 to you as well, and fight Garonhroth the Blacksmith there. You'll find you get 200XP out of that... 50XP if you use fire attacks... And there's no way to get him to drop any loot, save a 10% chance for a granite maul and a skull blade. Also, it'll take about an hour to kill him with the weapons and stats you'll have available to you at even the top tier (even though, most likely, he'll be bugged and unable to reach you, and you'll likely fall asleep while waiting for him to finally die).

 

[J-M v2.5.5]

If it's OK with you, I'll go back to MAR2008a. I'm sure zeus will come along.

 

[zeus9860]

(crying about current rewards as opposed to getting rewards flatly denied)

Seriously just get the **** out of my thread.

Just tell me, WHO THE FUCK IS CRYING IN YOUR THREAD NOW? Is it me or is it you who just posted something about a server crash and u lost xp + loot. Also if im fucking crying about stuff in your useless garbage thread, then im sure there is a point that i get offtopic about the subject. And i dont fucking care about post counts, you just seem to have a grudge that i have higher post count than you pending on join dates. There's much to tell has this is actually the 1st internet community i ever joined and still care and spend time to look at. Go talk garbage nonsense to your mother, fucking tired of your overreacting useless shit borya.

Fucking bad day to pick on me idiot.

In anycase, I strongly suggest getting a copy of MSC 1.0 to you as well, and fight Garonhroth the Blacksmith there. You'll find you get 200XP out of that... 50XP if you use fire attacks... And there's no way to get him to drop any loot, save a 10% chance for a granite maul and a skull blade. Also, it'll take about an hour to kill him with the weapons and stats you'll have available to you at even the top tier (even though, most likely, he'll be bugged and unable to reach you, and you'll likely fall asleep while waiting for him to finally die).

From what i remember the 1st time i actually tried master sword was msc 1.0, back then i actually played the game for 20 minutes untll i quit >_> Sometime later i got to know about msremake and the "monthly patches" so i decided to try it, and then again some months later i joined the forums... which brought me to the position i am now

If it's OK with you, I'll go back to MAR2008a. I'm sure zeus will come along.

I doubt i would last long to play ms:c at that date, i mean it would turn out to be boring aswell has it is now, besides if there's such thing has a patch coming better jsut aswell sit back and play other games and wait for news. If it doesnt come then its the end for ms:c to, let's say half the actual players tat still play it? :|

 

[Hemeriodius]

I look forward to Borya (or anyone) pointing out every incredibly stupid thing in that post (Id do it my self but seeing as all my posts look like they where written by five year old's id just make myself look like an idiot in the process).

 

[Mikkel]

All of you need to shut the F*CK up, drop the b*tch fight.

 

[Thothie]

If it's OK with you, I'll go back to MAR2008a. I'm sure zeus will come along.

Please do. It's not as if you were complaining any less or any less destructive to this mod then.

 

[Borya]

Just tell me, WHO THE **** IS CRYING IN YOUR THREAD NOW?

Still you I guess, judging by the amount of cursing.

Is it me or is it you who just posted something about a server crash and u lost xp + loot.

Although supposedly this has also happened to an alarming number of recent runs. Perhaps it warrants further investigation and the issue possibly being moved to troubleshooting? ;P

Also if im **** crying about stuff in your useless garbage thread, then im sure there is a point that i get offtopic about the subject.

Yeah, I guess I shouldn't be surprised that at the mention of Lodagond, you'd storm in here and throw a fit about the previous switch from XP to Items as a reward for the map, although I will admit that I didn't see the other XP adjustment complaints coming.

And i dont **** care about post counts, you just seem to have a grudge that i have higher post count than you pending on join dates.

No, that was me trying to bait Sabre for backing you up, lrn2reed

Go talk garbage nonsense to your mother, **** tired of your overreacting useless **** borya.

Sure, when you go try to kill a different mod.

 

[Mikkel]

This is Bunny, he died because of this thread.

 

[Tentadrilus]

This thread bears no presence in the real world, and thus cannot be the cause of that bunny's death.

Please think things through before you sh*tpost, Mikkel.

 

[Sabre]

Hey Borya, you are very close to driving away a dev. I am fed up with all the mudslinging in this community and am about ready to bail myself. There are very few things keeping me tied here, and admittedly I don't help a lot, but I'm just tired of this. I'm amazed that Thothie has stuck around, he must have iron skin or something...But yeah. As I see it, there's Team Nerf, and two Team Whines fighting amongst themselves. Mikkel is right, cut the crap, all of you...Or I'm joining him on the sidelines. :|