God.

[Netrogor]

Better to believe in logic and sanity, rather than an all-powerful being which cares especially for you, believing yourself unique, effectively bloating your ego on the basis that you want to be worth more. And for some people, the belief that this all powerful being speaks to them so that they may 'lead others to a brighter future'. I'll take being a pompous ass over being a psychotic and a neoconservative any day, thank you very much.

"If you speak to God, you're religious; if God speaks to you, you're insane."
House, M.D.
That show rocks!

 

[Sabre]

While I do agree that House does rule, I believe that you are over-generalizing the concept of religion in that there are some religions that don't take it way the hell out of context. I don't see the Dalai Lama rubbing his faith in everyone's face, for example.

 

[Shadeska]

Religion never ceases the confuse the hell out of me, sometimes literally, but mainly in the derogative-figurative way. I've been going to the Wilkesboro Church of Christ since I was born. I was raised by conservative parents (not Nazi conservative, but indeed homo-condescending ) who seemed to be condratictive in every thing I was told about Christianity.
"Worship thy Lord thy God with all thine heart." Then why am I grounded every Sunday and Wendesday night for not singing in church? If I were to do so immediately after such punishment, wouldn't I be worshipping freaking videogames? I have an extensive knowledge of the Bible and all of its teachings but the way people apply it today confuses me to no end. "But David, you know so much! Why wont you get baptized and be saved?" Well...
I don't believe I've found my faith yet. I just don't seem to have any and I wont be baptized and saved from myself by God until I know believe. Learning is strong, faith is weak, and yet every day I am told by my parents that I am a model Christian: doing "the right thing", being kind to others in spite of anger. Then five minutes later I am ostracized for my taste in music, games, and reading. Such as last week, where after 4 years, my parents finally found out that I own GTA:SA. They laughed about it after I told them. I don't know how many virtual hookers I've sexed up then backed over with my Patriot. And one of my favorite titles is Call of Cthulhu.

Is the modern Christian allowed to become wrapped up in the physical world so long as he maintains his conviction? Is this soul-searching or just a teenager wanting to do everything he can before he is "restrained" by his beliefs? It's rather clear to myself what I think about my actions (irresponsible), yet they are the exact same things that people coming into their faith have done again, and again, and again. Why shouldn't I break the trend and just dedicate myself? (Something I've always had trouble with, not just concerning God) I guess Gentiles just wanna have fun -_-

Finally... Well, I don't know what to do now. I think I'm going to go play some Dark Messiah:M&M.

 

[PBarnum]

I got bored reading past Thothie (used Thothie as a marker because he is the only one who made the most sense).

Anyway, I am an agnostic. I simply don't know what is going to happen in the after life. I am kind of on the fence so to speak. I am anxious to see what will happen after. Find out all the answers to life... Even if that happens.

 

[Shadeska]

That's another thing.

"If you're not with God, you're against God." I was thinking, "Oh WTF?!" But it does unfortunately make sense to me. I think I'm just going to have to say "F*ck you" to the church, go off to college, and form my own opinions. It'll be hard but I'm just going to have to forget everything I've been taught and start the heck over.

 

[HomestarR]

That's another thing.

"If you're not with God, you're against God." I was thinking, "Oh WTF?!" But it does unfortunately make sense to me.

If I don't believe in God, then how would I see him as an opponent? Whatever. Bring it God, if you think you are man enough to take me on.

 

[Shadeska]

Did you read the rest of my post? I'm going to try and eliminate that kind of thinking.

 

[Thothie]

Did you read the rest of my post? I'm going to try and eliminate that kind of thinking.

Go win the war on terror while yer at it.

 

[HomestarR]

Did you read the rest of my post?

Should I?

Anyhow, my challenge to a pit match with God still stands.

 

[Wolfhound]

What's funny is 99% of these posts are off-topic, go back and read the first post people.

 

[Sabre]

What's funny is 99% of these posts are off-topic, go back and read the first post people.

No offense, but this thread was inevitably doomed to tangency.

 

[Wolfhound]

No offense, but that's because you all have ADD. It's really not that hard to stay on-topic.

 

[Thothie]

They are on topic... Especially by this forum's standards. There’s some serious restraint going on here.

 

[Blasto121]

No offense, but that's because you all have ADD. It's really not that hard to stay on-topic.

congrats you derailed the thread more so than it already was, and here I am contributing to it by replying to the post.

 

[CrazyMonkeyDude]

What's funny is 99% of these posts are off-topic, go back and read the first post people.

The first post is you actively trying to convert people. How is that not going to be derailed? You're lucky you weren't flamed out.

 

[The Man In Black]

I'm still considering it ;-)

 

[Netrogor]

While I do agree that House does rule, I believe that you are over-generalizing the concept of religion in that there are some religions that don't take it way the hell out of context. I don't see the Dalai Lama rubbing his faith in everyone's face, for example.

Yes, House does rule.
Through Blasto, and a reply I had made to him, I have already established that I am attacking the religious powerhouses; Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. The ones that either make up the majority of the world, or, in Islam's case, have the most news coverage on their radicals and extremists.
Nice taking my entire post out of context, though, Sabre.

 

[Wolfhound]

What's funny is 99% of these posts are off-topic, go back and read the first post people.

The first post is you actively trying to convert people. How is that not going to be derailed? You're lucky you weren't flamed out.

I didn't write the first post. I replied to the first post explaining why the logic was flawed, that's all.

 

[Sabre]

Through Blasto, and a reply I had made to him, I have already established that I am attacking the religious powerhouses; Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. The ones that either make up the majority of the world, or, in Islam's case, have the most news coverage on their radicals and extremists.
Nice taking my entire post out of context, though, Sabre.

Buddhism is a religious powerhouse.

 

[Thothie]

The first post is you actively trying to convert people. How is that not going to be derailed? You're lucky you weren't flamed out.

No, if it was actively trying to convert people, it would have said something along the lines of “Join with me in worshipping our Lord Christ. Be awash in His blood and be freed of all sins! Drink of His bottomless cup and join the holy bretheren of CWoG today!” (* no offense to the holy bretheren of CWoG)

Well, I've always thought this and wanted to hear some opinions.
So first off, I am a Christian, and believe in God. But , for people who don't believe in God ( or a God), lets say you were wrong, and then you'll be going to hell.

We'll lets say I'M wrong, what happens? Absolutely nothing. So why don't you just believe in a case that your wrong? [ Which I believe you are. ]

*No offense to anybody if it was taken.

^ That, "If you don't believe what I believe you are going to hell", statement, on the other hand, is either, a) A forum troll, or b) A cry for help… Probably from someone who just realized he’s going to hell, which if maintains that belief structure, he will – although probably not quite the hell he envisions.

 

[Netrogor]

Through Blasto, and a reply I had made to him, I have already established that I am attacking the religious powerhouses; Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. The ones that either make up the majority of the world, or, in Islam's case, have the most news coverage on their radicals and extremists.
Nice taking my entire post out of context, though, Sabre.

Buddhism is a religious powerhouse.

There are only a few hundred million Buddhists worldwide, and, even then, almost all of them are peaceful, and non-violent. There are no Governments which incorporate it as a means to control people; although there are Governments which control people and are strongly tied to Buddhism, they use a different means to control them (power, fear, military). Plus, Buddhism isn't strict; they don't tell you that Hell awaits you for all of eternity, should you blasphemy their 'God/s'.

 

[Sabre]

Judaism is a smaller religion than Buddhism. Moreover, you mentioned nothing else in your 'qualifications' of being a major religion other than:

The ones that either make up the majority of the world, or, in Islam's case, have the most news coverage on their radicals and extremists.

So don't shoot me down just because you decide that a major religion also has to be violent and condemning.

On that subject, Hinduism is also a major religion.

 

[Thothie]

Plus, Buddhism isn't strict; they don't tell you that Hell awaits you for all of eternity, should you blasphemy their 'God/s'.

War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is Strength.

That's just... So wrong... Even in westernized Buddhism. Buddism, in many sects, is vastly more strict than Christianity - as in cut-yer-bawls-off strict (litteraly), and disrespecting ANY god can put you in one hell or another. Nirvana, also, much, much harder to get into than heaven, sort-to-speak.

But do you go to hell if you don't believe what Netrog believes? That is the question at hand.

 

[Blasto121]

I have personally viewed Buddhism as a way of life vs being an actual religion.

 

[FER]

But Buddhism has a hell, right? wasnt it called Yomi?

Didn't Buddha not want anybody make a religion out of it? (which they ended making i guess)

redundance: read my first post