Ms_Castle

[The Man In Black]

Gaz COULD be mistaken though, couldn't he?

Can we get downloads of both the maps for comparison?

 

[Thothie]

That was a pretty high res picture of that map, and there's only one reason he'd remove the links.

 

[The Man In Black]

I can think of another reason, but it is shadey.

I say give him a chance to prove his innocence. There's no sense in not at least giving him a shot.

 

[J-M v2.5.5]

Gaz, post a link to this testmap. I still remember pretty good how that in-editor shot Krayman posted looks. Rectangular castle with eight towers, four in the corners, and the other four on the two long sides.

Oh and:

Hey you know what? **** this mod - All i do is try to help out, be more involved but I get thrown this ****. I guess it all started when I quit BoU some guild that wasnt even fun? but hey just delete my characters, hell if I care.

KRAYMAN AM CRY

 

[Thothie]

Didn't bother todownload the source, this is what was left in my net cache. Case someone wanted to give it a second look.

 

[Jax]

D: ?

Sorry, but I was away (holidays) while Gurulas and Kray turned into apparent nutcases...what happened? Why Kray a map theif lah? And why Gurulas want to be bludgeon'd?

 

[J-M v2.5.5]

Thanks for the screenshot, Thothie. That's pretty much exactly how it still was in my head. Now I'm just waiting for Gaz to post holy ownage linkage.

 

[Gaz]

Crap, its going to take me ages to find that wad and map zip file. It was over 3 years ago, but I remember it 100%.

I'll have a good look for it, I don't want to cause shit, but I tell no lies

 

[kray1091]

I didnt say you lied, what is bull shit is that it is my map. I dont get why you guys say it. The tower and .wad is a prefab, but I have permission to use it. What makes it a legit map? DOH

 

[zEdge3]

Well..

 

[PBarnum]

just make the god-damned map let people judge it when you are done. why dont I post progress on my map? cuz I dont care, they see it when its out. so dont care and make it.

 

[Gaz]

So basically, you were showing a prefab with textures on, with a little bit duplicated, thats like 2 seconds work, maybe 3 if you include the compile.

You didn't say it was "with permission", and how was permission granted? from a readme that says "include my name in the credits"?

Sorry to frown on this, it just annoys the hell outta me when people take credit for others work, yes you have duplicated stuff, but essentially you've done nothing yourself.

 

[zEdge3]

just to get the scriptlist or "cmd to put items in chests" as one said.

kokris *cough* *cough*
and isn't that gaz guy the one who made pvk_island!?!?!?

 

[Thothie]

Well... If you just mean the towers are pre-fabs, I mean, you can't really fault him for that. I mean, people distribute pre-fabs with the intent people will use them in other maps. There's whole catalogs of prefabs out there. (Even Crow, our great map meister, used prefab torches on World Walker - who knows where those 2 brush + 2 sprite torches came from.)

I frown on prefabs for technical reasons - you put in a complex object like that, scale it and move it around, it causes all sorts of performance and/or compile issues. All but the most basic of prefabs are never as good as rebuilding the object from scratch.

Granted, if the towers are prefabs, then this map is mostly prefabs, and the prefab maker should get some credit, but I don't think that would quite go into the catagory of "stolen map". Certainly nothing like Korkis tried to pull.

 

[kray1091]

how was permission granted? from a readme that says "include my name in the credits"?

Um actually no, from an email address provided with the "include my name in the credits".

 

[Gaz]

Fine, though until you do more than have a prefab room, I don't rate it whatsoever. Sorry :roll:

Yes zEdge3 I did

 

[kray1091]

Sounds good to me.

Currently I do have a map im making from scratch. It dosnt have a name though.