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[Kindomtitan]

Hello Community,

I've asked me few times , how it'd be , to have a/some Mount/s in Game?
I think it would be excited to ride with a Mount through some Areas , maybe fight on them ,

or maybe if you have some more Ideas ... but i would like to have Mounts in-game .. would be cool and interesting ;D

EdiTlease don't just vote , write! pls!

 

[zeus9860]

i dislike mounts for some reasons such has bad controlling and BUGGY HAS HELL (example: twoworlds). On the other side it has 2 reasons which i see worthy having (maybe) which are: use them to store items and make travelling in-game faster... but since travelling in ms:c is something u dont expect much to in this game, and the banking system would fit well on mounts but then again i see no reason for such things to be implemented in-game when most maps are small and u can speed it up using raven mace. xD

 

[Kindomtitan]

Yeah , but with the small maps is changeable , and you are right maybe they would be "BuggY" ... I never played Two Worlds so i can't say something aginst/to it ... but there are some positive "Games" with Mounts like Mount&Blade,WoW,Archlord,Mu

travel would make more fun if , we had taller/bigger maps with large plains with monsters to explore ... soe new stuff , because i think old stuff is kinda boring after a while ...

i ment it's not only A normal Medival Game , with a bit fantasy/phantasie we could have difrent moutns , don't have to be Horses

Maybe you could farm some special items to give your mount some armor ... and if it dies you may need more players to resurrect the mount , or you get a special Mount Ressurection Spell with uses 300Mana or something like that ... and a SC 20-25 .. but about that we could discuss later ...

 

[Kindomtitan]

Yeah unlikely i know what ye mean :>

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lol but i think just would be enought to , with the few features i had lol

and maybe somebody is up for creating a large map with many enemys , maybe some boss/quest ...

think a whole time about it ... i mean it would just great , and ye. raven mace you need few times to get one .... it seems rarely ... so ...

Edit:Seems like it is chosen ... :/ well , but thanks for voting @comunity , and thanks for reply @zeus n JellY

 

[Sirschmoopy]

mounts aren't in game since we have the raven mace.

 

[Hemeriodius]

we don't need Mounts the maps are all small enough to walk or raven mace across without needing more speed.

Besides they wouldn't fit in most areas anyway think about riding a horse through edana from the temple steps to the town, also think about riding from say: one end of Sfor to the other mounts just don't fit.

 

[Kindomtitan]

yeah - I know the maps are small but if it starts over again with some patches there are more and more maps can be built larger/taller , cause the patches will make them available , so they fit to mounts , and anyways i think Raven Mace Model suckZ or skin what ever , but I mean Raven Mace is rare and not easily to earn/get it ... so ...

But like I see there are Less people who wants Mounts and a Large group of those who says 'no way'... so i think we can close this thread ...

 

[J-M v2.5.5]

1) Outdoor maps, in which horses would actually be useful, are not small. Aleyesu is not small. The Aluhandra desert is far away from being small. The port city of Ara is not small. The Bloodrose valley is HUGE. The plains of Daragoth aren't small. The highlands aren't small. The dangerous pass isn't particularly small either. The haunted forest is pretty big, too. The Thornlands aren't small.
Infact, all those maps are (pretty much) as big as Goldsource maps can get; aleyesu, aluhandra2, bloodrose, daragoth and sfor in particular I think.
2) A new patch can't make the maps bigger as we're talking about an engine limit here.
3) Who on earth would want to recreate any of the above maps? They're all brilliant (except for the bloodrose boss room which is one of the worst insults in the game). There are some really worthless MS:C maps that definitely need a remake if you ask me, but why would anybody recreate, for example, the plains of Daragoth? That map is flawless.
4) If you can make a better raven mace model, I'm sure the development team will be happy to receive it.
5) Same goes for the skin (hard to tell which part sucks because your post isn't formulated all that clearly).
6) The raven mace isn't all that hard to get.
7) Mounts would have to travel at speeds faster than the raven mace speed, but that would be so rediculously fast that it would be hard to control.
8) I hate horses.

 

[Mikkel]

What's wrong with the bloodrose boss chamber now?

 

[zeus9860]

What's wrong with the bloodrose boss chamber now?

I think the answer to that is obvious Mikkel >_> (Atholo himself running up and down all the time is 1 of the bad aspects[probably worst i've seen])

1)They are small if you speed up things such has using raven, in other words they are big/medium sized if u plainly run without any especial effect on you to raise speed.
2)True, i guess. At least i know that goldsource engine has limits...
3)Not me, that's 100% for sure.
4)I also dislike a little the model, anyways i dont want to say that im tired of seeing it on my screen(even its a useless weapon but a good item, seriously) xD
5)(...)
6)So true and the map is easily doable and can be done fast (despite the crashing sometimes messes up everything).
7)I would lol hard if there was actually a horse with agility higher than the max agility obtainable (speed is nuts at higher lvl), it's like at a certain lvl the agility we have surpaces (BIG TIME) the ravens speed, it would just be messed up to have a human running faster than an horse...
8)So do i, i always beat the crap out of them! Unless they are usefull like in oblivion rather than the one's in two worlds :roll:

 

[Hemeriodius]

1) Outdoor maps, in which horses would actually be useful, are not small. Aleyesu is not small. The Aluhandra desert is far away from being small. The port city of Ara is not small. The Bloodrose valley is HUGE. The plains of Daragoth aren't small. The highlands aren't small. The dangerous pass isn't particularly small either. The haunted forest is pretty big, too. The Thornlands aren't small.
Infact, all those maps are (pretty much) as big as Goldsource maps can get; aleyesu, aluhandra2, bloodrose, daragoth and sfor in particular I think.

Ok they may not be small but could you imagine someone riding a horse through any of those maps then getting off to go into a cave or a boss fight or something? Its just not Practical, the amount of bugs and problems that would be brought on by Mounts wouldn't be worth it.

(except for the bloodrose boss room which is one of the worst insults in the game).

Of course sir Tweaks allot here hates the idea of MSC holding any challenge at all.

 

[Thothie]

I could see, maybe, designing a single map that uses horses though...

Technical issues galore though, tis true. I could glue a player to a horse, but getting him to control it would be quite another challenge - best I could do, without fiddling with code, would likely be to have the horse travel wherever the player was facing until he clicked +use on it to stop and get off.

Then there's getting animations. FER's a fine modeler, but animations are the hardest bit about modeling (apparently). You'd need a ride animation, at least - otherwise the player would just be running in place on top of the horse. Mounting and unmounting (presumably just mount reversed) animations would be good too.

Only glimmer of hope for this idea is that we do indeed have a horse model.

More practical application for a horse would be maybe as a summon on which you could store stuff, rather than a mount. Might be possible under MiB's new bank system.

 

[Dridmar]

Only glimmer of hope for this idea is that we do indeed have a horse model.

Took the horse from Wanted? That mod has two models of horses, one by itself and the other with a rider.

Edit: I WANT TO RIDE A BEAR!

 

[Dridmar]

(except for the bloodrose boss room which is one of the worst insults in the game).

Of course sir Tweaks allot here hates the idea of MSC holding any challenge at all.

Introducing the hardest boss chamber ever, now with 100% more frustration!

 

[Thothie]

Edit: I WANT TO RIDE A BEAR!

New spell idea!

BEAR BLASTING!

Acquired with Power Thirst Potion, of course.

 

[Kindomtitan]

Sry 'bout my english , I'm German so I cannot speak english as well ...,

but i could make a raven mace model / skin if I have more expirience in modeling/skinning...

hmm , but I haven't said the maps are small at all ... , and @J-M i haven't ment , to remake them ... i ment after the patch there could be new maps that are bigger :?

anyways @ J-M 8) Who said that the mount must be a Horse , i mean it's not an medival game at all :?

I think if you got a Horse model ok let it be a Horse , but ... if not DD you can ride on a Orc xDDD aw joke ..

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How about the features @ Thothie
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Give Mount Armour
Fight on Mount
Extra Inventory on Mount
Mount Charge skill
can be leveld
need a specific level/hp to ride on it
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Those would be my Ideas of some features ... , @ Bugs i think after time they could be fixed ...

Edit: @ Thothie , nice skill man

 

[J-M v2.5.5]

What has been wrong with the bloodrose boss chamber forever?

Fixed it for you!

Ok they may not be small but could you imagine someone riding a horse through any of those maps then getting off to go into a cave or a boss fight or something? Its just not Practical, the amount of bugs and problems that would be brought on by Mounts wouldn't be worth it.

I thought my entire post was countering the usefulness of horses and/or the vague statements Kindomtitan came up with ("maps are small") which are, sometimes only slightly, related to the actual discussion.
Let me see.

Yes, yes it was.
So that brings me back to my previous (unaltered) conclusion: no to mounts.

Besides, I'd rather see bug fixes than something as totally useless as mounts.

Of course sir Tweaks allot here hates the idea of MSC holding any challenge at all.

I don't see the relation between software/hardware tweaking and MS:C, at all.

Introducing the hardest boss chamber ever, now with 100% more frustration!

I lol'd! That's exactly what I meant

I know the maps are small

I haven't said the maps are small at all

Next, please.

J-M i haven't ment , to remake them ... i ment after the patch there could be new maps that are bigger :?

No patch in the world can ever make MS:C maps bigger than, say, daragoth/aluhandra2. The game just can't handle maps that are bigger.

 

[Hemeriodius]

I thought my entire post was countering the usefulness of horses and/or the vague statements Kindomtitan came up with ("maps are small") which are, sometimes only slightly, related to the actual discussion.
Let me see.

Yes, yes it was.
So that brings me back to my previous (unaltered) conclusion: no to mounts.

Sorry misread. It seemed like you where trying to prove that Mounts would fit and be practical in those larger maps.

Besides, I'd rather see bug fixes than something as totally useless as mounts.

Agreed.

I don't see the relation between software/hardware tweaking and MS:C, at all.

You don't see the connection between babying newbies through the game by tweaking them and complaining that Atholo's Chamber is too hard?

 

[FER]

I would only see a map with mounts only if its a scrolling map where you must avoid random obstacles, etc. like a stage from the game Sunset Riders.

 

[Thothie]

No patch in the world can ever make MS:C maps bigger than, say, daragoth/aluhandra2. The game just can't handle maps that are bigger.

Well, you can... Provided there isn't much of anything on the map, and most of it takes place underground.

Bloodrose has much more square footage than either of those maps.

I would only see a map with mounts only if its a scrolling map where you must avoid random obstacles, etc. like a stage from the game Sunset Riders.

Horse race anyone?

Maybe a section of map with territory that you can't cross without a mount, for some bloody reason or other (human footsteps awaken insta-kill creatures, or somethin'...) *shrug*

 

[Mikkel]

What has been wrong with the bloodrose boss chamber forever?

Not an answer.

Fixed it for you.

 

[Dridmar]

Maybe a section of map with territory that you can't cross without a mount, for some bloody reason or other (human footsteps awaken insta-kill creatures, or somethin'...) *shrug*

or

 

[Thothie]

 

[J-M v2.5.5]

tweaking

Tweaking...? What does that have to do with anything?

 

[Kindomtitan]

@Thothie ,1) I lol'd hardly ... 2) yeah I'm up for an Race on tha RockeT WorM

@J-M , yeah that's right ... i wrote 'the maps are small' and I said 'they aren't small at all' but I'm headconfused ...
can't explain what I mean with this , lol ... >.< ...