[WIP] The Tainted Grove (msc_tgrove)

[J-M v2.5.5]

The Tainted Grove
msc_tgrove

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--- TERRAIN IS, BY FAR, NOT FINAL ---

 

[Belmont]

Very nice job as usual, I didn't think you would work on this one this fast!

I really like the front gate for the castle, looks very nice & detailed.

 

[Mikkel]

not bad

 

[Jelly]

Yay, more maps. Awesome job.

 

[J-M v2.5.5]

not bad

Not bad!? Wait 'til the terrain in that particular area is complete so I can get a close-up screenshot of the gate to show you how good it really looks!

"Not bad"... punk

 

[FER]

Those torches scare me, are there too much torches?

BTW I never asked, do model based torches eat as much edicts as entity based ones?

 

[Durak]

not bad

Not bad!? Wait 'til the terrain in that particular area is complete so I can get a close-up screenshot of the gate to show you how good it really looks!

"Not bad"... punk

The stone textures on the outside are a little too much for me. The smaller pieces are daunting and all the same which contrasts to the huge blocks. It might be that or the fact that they look the same on every part of the wall. I'm not very artistic though. The layout and structure looks very good and yes your gate looks great.

Edit: Bad sentence structure

 

[J-M v2.5.5]

Yeah, sorry about the stone texture... it's so repetitive because the gate is so freaking big.
In fact, the width of this gate is 3/8th of the MAXIMUM Goldsource map width.
I already upscaled the stone texture to 1.5 (x) and 1.5 (y), and if I scale it even higher, say, 2 and 2, it looks too blurry. The only way to fix the repetitiveness of the stone texture is finding a different one, but that's harder than it sounds.

 

[Snow Wolf / RaZoR]

looks nice.

 

[brian4]

Keep up the good work!

 

[Rickler]

looks awesome, might want to change that overtly repetitive wall texture.

btw where's the grove?

 

[J-M v2.5.5]

As I mentioned before, I'm still looking for a replacement texture and this is actually harder than it seems.

Also, the grove isn't actually shown (because it isn't done yet LOLOLOLOL).
And (spoiler): there are actually three groves in the map, all tainted (will be tied to a quest once I work it all out & send Thothie script requests).

The gate you see leads to something... else...

 

[J-M v2.5.5]

I have a problem and it starts with an "l".

There is a leak in my map and I can't find it, no matter how hard I try. I only once had a leak before since I've been mapping because I'm always very precise (probably the reason why I'm so slow, though) so I was quite surprised when I got the "LEAK in hull 0" message.

I followed Rickler's advice and had vBSP compile my map to get a pointfile that isn't totally crazy, but looking at this vBSP generated pointfile in Source Hammer I see... this:

The pointfile goes straight through a worldbrush, and said worldbrush is surrounded by even more worldbrushes, all seamlessly attached together.
What the hell is this?

Edit: Rearranging the brushes that surround the "leak" just cause the new pointfile line to go straight through another innocent worldbrush, also seamlessly attached to other worldbrushes. Rearranging that does the same thing with a different worldbrush.
I don't get it. Maybe I somehow overdetailed?

 

[Rickler]

My guess is either one or more of the vertexes is not on the grid as an integer. Try moving them in both side views then move them back so they snap right. Or just delete the brushes in that area and start from scratch.

 

[J-M v2.5.5]

I crafted all of this by hand (no clipping) and all the vertices were perfectly on the grid.
I guess I'll have to redo this then...

 

[Thothie]

Sometimes, even with everything snapped to the grid and all, too many vertex's matching at odd angles at the same point will flip the compiler out. Generally, when I'm making that type of terrain, I start with a box, and build the floor over it - then you get leaf errors instead of leaks, and most of those go away with a -full compile. Even if one or two are left, so long as it doesn't affect the FPS of the area, let it go. I think there's two leaf errors in the fire room in sfor, with no ill effects, and that has twisted terrain from floor to ceiling, save one wall.

Wpoly's stay under 600 here... Granted, not as nice as the 80poly of the "Nintendo 64 forest" next door.

Downside is 80% of the clipnodes on the map are in this room and hallway.