Ara (aka The Unnamed Map)

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I'm having trouble finding people to test the map with. I've been asking around on servers but no-one's interested. Well, a few people on pimpsta's server might've been but then I got banned with a message "nobody wants to test your map". :oldlol:

So if anyone wants to help, just tell me and I'll see what I can do. I'll maybe try to spot you in-game and set up a server or something.
 

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J said:
Well, a few people on pimpsta's server might've been but then I got banned with a message "nobody wants to test your map". :oldlol:
What the fuck? That guy is ****ing retarded.

Anyway, I'm kind of busy with learning exams right now, but I might be able to free some time either tomorrow, friday or saturday. I live in the Netherlands, so my timezone is GMT +1.

And why am I a good candidate for betatesting? I'm a mapper myself as well, so I'll be able to identify certain problems, I recognize texture errors, I can give you more advice, if you need it.
 

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Thanks, J-M v2.5.5.

At this point I don't need good candidates, I need ANY candidates. I'm getting desperate. But actually, when I was thinking of possible helpers I thought that you'd probably be the best one since you are a mapper and have helped the community in other ways too (the monster list for example). I'm in GMT+2 so we're up at the same time, and we both live in Europe which would give us a good ping.

Im other news, a few guys said they'd join my server just now but didn't show up after all. They even asked for some loot in return for the testing. It's understandable that someone wants to get "paid" for their time but, jesus, what do I get for spending hours and hours making a map for the community? Money? Loot? No, I get banned! :D Sorry for the complaining but I just find it rather funny at this point.
 

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J said:
At this point I don't need good candidates, I need ANY candidates. I'm getting desperate. But actually, when I was thinking of possible helpers I thought that you'd probably be the best one since you are a mapper and have helped the community in other ways too (the monster list for example). I'm in GMT+2 so we're up at the same time, and we both live in Europe which would give us a good ping.
Heh, well, thanks for the compliments, but in all honesty I am quite sure that Thothie would be the #1 map tester everybody would want to have help from. I also think that evilsquirrel and Crow would also make great map testers :)

And about the monster list... I still need to add things from... the JAN2007a patch I think... some new animated armors, zombies, and everything that came after them (stone skeletons among other things). So right now, the list is a tad outdated. Glad to hear people actually still use it. I'll see if I can update it tomorrow or friday.

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Im other news, a few guys said they'd join my server just now but didn't show up after all. They even asked for some loot in return for the testing. It's understandable that someone wants to get "paid" for their time but, jesus, what do I get for spending hours and hours making a map for the community? Money? Loot? No, I get banned! :D Sorry for the complaining but I just find it rather funny at this point.
People expect loot for having a first glance at a new map (and for helping the mapper out)? That's pretty pathetic. Also, what's your server name anyway?
 

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Lol then you are asking the wrong people :D
Who was the noob who asked loot in return? That's so pathetic.

E: Haha, we kinda have the same opinion there, though you were a little faster than me :wink:
 

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My server name? If you mean the name I use on servers, it's Kreisi. If you mean the name of my server, it varies, the latest one was named JOIN.

The guy who wanted loot was called Forge<something>. But I told him I wouldn't be giving anything for the testing and I think he was still going to help but got caught up with some other stuff. They were forming a party or something.
 

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Hmm, I'll try setting it up again. It has worked earlier, though. I can see it in Steam's server list.

Edit: It's up again.
 

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Possible. That would explain why that one guy didn't join after all. Mikkel did find his way to my server a few days ago though, that's kind of strange.

Edit: I'll upload the map and you can make a server if you feel like it, or we can try it another time.
Edit2: It appears someone or something had disabled incoming traffic for HL from my firewall. That could've been the cause.
Edit3: Blasto joined. Blasto dropped. In other words, it seems to be working. Too bad I had alt+tabbed away from HL when Blasto came and he left before I noticed.
 

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I'm afraid we'll have to wait until at least tomorrow, because right now, I'm going back to studying for my physics exam...

Amplitudes, sinus waves, balance, leverage, force, pressure, laws of nature concerning gases, more waves, interference, optics, light, (ionizing) radiation, behaviour of electrons (also in magnetic fields), acceleration of electrons, photons, atoms, nuclear physics...
 

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Sure thing. At least it looks like people can see my server again. Sorry for wasting your time and thanks for helping, could've taken ages for me to figure out people can't see the server. I have no idea why HL was blocked from my firewall.

On a side note, I'm glad I've got my physics courses behind me.

Edit: Trying to contact Blasto in-game but MSC crashes and goes back to Windows with no error message when I try to join his server. I get the character menu and pick a char, it goes in the game and I can see a flash of the map and then it crashes.
Edit2: The crashing went away when they changed maps. I talked to Blasto and he helped me test the map. Big thanks to him for that. We got through the first two waves and far into the third.
 

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Since Thothie bumped the topic of "that other unfinished map", and since Tao and I betatested this map and were impressed, I will bump this topic and ask: how's it going with your map?
 

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My original plans were to make a map as fast as possible to offer the community something new to play. The first two weeks were quite productive but after that it has slowed down. I haven't given up yet, though. At the moment I'm in the middle of some exams but I'll try to finish it after those. Not much is missing really, I've made most of the fixes you suggested.

Also, the map has two spots for transitions. One where players can enter and leave the map, and one that is exit only (the ending of the map). So I'd need a few maps to link this one to, but this isn't urgent so it can wait.

Anyway, the map's not dead.
 

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Just be sure if you do give up on it, to e-mail the source and a compile to me so we can add it to the WIP archives. ;)
 

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All right, a quick update here just to show that the map's not dead.

Lately I've been either working or tired from working and haven't had much time or energy on my hands but I compiled a new build and just tested it. There are some minor bugs which I'll have to get fixed but it's looking pretty good. I got a few NPC scripts from Thothie to add a bit interactivity to the map, thanks to him for those. And thanks to the people who just tested the map with me (mainly LordThraxis, J-M, Mikkel and a few others).
 

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You sure you will use skeletons? I mean, they are already enough maps with skeletons. Why not ghouls?
 

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Yes. I don't feel like changing the map anymore, I just want to get it done. The enemies are mostly orcs anyway, the skeletons are only in one part of the map. There is one ghoul, too.
 

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Bump for WIP update request.

Yer map looked nearly done, I thought it was going to be out the first week or two this month - tis nearly the next. Do you need anything else to finish it?

Granted, I could say the same of Replica's skycastle - but I had the source, so I really shoulda just finished it myself, but between the windows re-install and the other crap that's kept me busy, I've had to spend all my free time trying to catch up on code/scripts.
 

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Yes, sorry for the delay, I've made progress but there are still a few things to do. I've just been tired from work and busy on weekends and had some motivational problems. When I started the map I had no idea it would take this long to finish but it'll be out some day quite soon. I'm taking friday off from work so I have a 3-day weekend and I'll see what I can get done.

I've had some problems with r_speeds and there still are a few spots where they go to ~1060. And I haven't been able to spawn the rats in the boxes without them getting stuck. How high are they anyway?

Btw, it is (or was, depending on where you live) my birthday (26th of July).
 

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They are... 32x48... Which seems a bit high, now that I see it - I'm going to reduce them to 32x32 like the rats (same model, no idea why they'd be taller).

As I think I said in the PM - place monsters directly on the ground. ie. Take entity tool, and click on ground. The monster will then spawn, as one may expect, on the ground. ;) - The only time you want to place monsters off the ground is when your worried they may spawn inside players.
 

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Bump again for Ara.

What happened to ya dude? Yer map looked almost done!
 

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I've been busy with work, but not anymore. And after adding the valley I've struggled with r_speeds, that has been the main problem but I got them to stay mostly under 1k.

I'll get it done soon now, have faith.
 
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