Raped by IE7

[The Man In Black]

So, my internet was acting really weird the other day. I checked to see if I had any updates ready to be installed that may help and I saw a "java" update. I figured there'd be no harm installing it, so I clicked my way through the screens without paying attention. It started the installation so I looked at some forums. I checked back a minute later and found IE7 installing.

I've been raped by IE7. >_<

 

[evilsquirrel]

you too?

 

[The Man In Black]

It touched my hard drive

 

[PBarnum]

mmm IE7

 

[Kuroneko]

IE7 doesn't work with my work's websites, so I uninstalled it on my laptop.

 

[Thothie]

I've come to enjoy the painful sodomy of IE7. In time, you will too.
I've had it running on the home sys for a few months now.

(Although I can only really say this so calmly, due to the fact that I'm on the road with my laptop right now, and it's still on IE6)

So far the only major problem I've run into with IE7 is that it doesn't like my smilies page

I dunno what the Java thing yer on about is though, ain't seen that yet. Thought we had to get all our Java needs through Sunmicro now. - Although I do have the old MS JavaVM in a well archived storage since so many old but v. useful utilities still seem to need it (damn thing was so much better than the new Java too... And it says something about your company, when Micro$oft puts out a better product.)

In anycase, IE7 will be mandatory soon enough... As will Vista. ><

 

[Kuroneko]

I've come to enjoy the painful sodomy of IE7. In time, you will too.
I've had it running on the home sys for a few months now.

(Although I can only really say this so calmly, due to the fact that I'm on the road with my laptop right now, and it's still on IE6)

So far the only major problem I've run into with IE7 is that it doesn't like my smilies page

I dunno what the Java thing yer on about is though, ain't seen that yet. Thought we had to get all our Java needs through Sunmicro now. - Although I do have the old MS JavaVM in a well archived storage since so many old but v. useful utilities still seem to need it (damn thing was so much better than the new Java too... And it says something about your company, when Micro$oft puts out a better product.)

In anycase, IE7 will be mandatory soon enough... As will Vista. ><

Do you know how many errors are on that smilies page? o_o Invalid values, non existant values o_o wtfh.

 

[evilsquirrel]

ahhhhh, so many smileys!!!!

 

[The Man In Black]

I only had one smiley not load :roll:

 

[Kuroneko]

I only had one smiley not load :roll:

It's errors in the table itself, not the images (Although, the images aren't exaclty to standards either, but thats not really a problem)

 

[charcolishen]

My IE7 doesnt let me open list boxes or popups.
It's all GMan's fault.

 

[Thothie]

Hmmm... When I try to open that smilie page in IE7 and it 'splodes, but I've had no issues with list boxes or anything.

So many different users with so many different problems, this smells of yet another main stream program that has been written like MSC.

Do you know how many errors are on that smilies page? o_o Invalid values, non existant values o_o wtfh.

There shouldn't be any script errors on it, and the table is automagically generated... In IE6 is runs fine - in Mozilla it runs fine, but Mozzilla doesn't support the Java script functions (ie. send URL to clipboard when ye clicky on em) - so it may report errors erroneously as it where.

(edit: Yeah, source looks fine to me, save for a series of em where the cel width didn't get defined. Any red x's likely result of dated index.)

IE7 just seems to splode from the shear number of animated gifs.

Edit:
There, I updatedified it:
http://www.thothie.com/smilies

...and oddly enough, it no go crashie no more. Maybe IE7 can't handle those empty width markers, while IE6 didn't care.

 

[Sabre]

I hate IE7...They raped Mozilla as far as I am concerned...What with the similar interfaces...And that Java download thing is shifty.

 

[Thothie]

Hmm... This Java download thing, I r home now, and I r still not getting it. :\ Maybe because I already have SunMicro's POS Java installed as well as the old MS JavaVM?

 

[The Man In Black]

Maybe I forgot to mention that I never update unless it pops something up that says "OMFG UPDATE OR I KILL YOU"

It was just an update that was right next to my clock. Probably months old :roll:

 

[Thothie]

Er, well, there was this big BS lawsuite between SunMicro and Microsoft a ways back, and the result is that SunMicro does your Java stuff now. So if you see an icon in the corner telling you to do a Java update - it ain't IE7 - it's SunMicro stupid BSOD generating Java Console.

There's so many security flaws in that thing, and Winderz itself, that I've taken to letting them update themselves in the background whenever they effing feel like it, in addition to checking periodically. I got a third party Linux based rollback system that gets around the crap they don't let you undo when they screw something up, and that's been pretty faithful so far. Microsoft seems to have stopped forcing patches of media codecs and hardware drivers, and such via their auto-updater (caused more problems than anything else), so it's less of a pain than it used to be as well.

 

[The Man In Black]

The only thing I can think of is that a Java update required IE7, so I unwittingly agreed. All I know is that there was a java update, I did it, then I had IE7

 

[Thothie]

Ah, so now SunMicro and Microsoft are working together to spread the evil, I C. I guess all has been forgiven since the lawsuit that sent cross-platform programming back 15 years.

Oh well, at least I have more smilies, and IE doesn't seem to go smash now... Ooops... Unless I scroll before they load, then it goes smash. Damnit.

Meh - Ya know, either I stupidly downloaded some adware... Or this page has found some clever new way around the IE7 pop-up blocker, cuz I'm getitng popups like mad all the sudden now. >< Meh... Lavasoft is finding nothing. I need to get that other one, spyware doctorwhatzitz.

 

[The Man In Black]

You're very obsessive about that smiley page now... Have you hidden viruses?

Oh, and for a great picture, go to graphics.hotmail.c-- You know, I should stop there before Squirrel kills me :roll:

 

[Thothie]

Maybe, it's not the web page... I've got four virus scanners, but one of them wont start suddenly (BitDefender) and AVG wants me to restart for an update... Lavasoft sees nothing but tracker cookies (STFU about the damn cookies you damn scanner!), and now Spyware Doctor is doing its thing... HiJackThis found a few things, but I removed them all, and the pop-ups are still here... Hmmm... Oh noes, I r t3h infecteds.

At this rate I'll be doing 3 windows installs on the same computer in the same month.

Oh, and to top of it off, I killed my host somehow, apparently.

 

[Thothie]

Yeah... Virus... Killed it. Brand new mofo... Apparently got it when I updated Vedit (e-mailing nasty letter to Vedit people shortly). Something called Email.Worm.Dundar that lead to Trojan.Supradear.D and the usual CSW hijack... Oh, and it cleared my DNS servers, which is the reason why my host went bunk, and slowly, all the rest of the internet, from my perspective.

Spooky thing: Bitdefender, AVG, Mcafee, Trend Micro, Lavasoft Adaware all failed to catch it. HiJackThis caught part of it, but not the source of the problem. Thus, SpywareDoctor = new best friend (or, rather, recently re-installed old friend).

Stupid thing is, Vedit didn't even get me around the issue with decompiling models, which was the whole bloody reason I updated the thing to begin with. Grrr...
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[Netrogor]

In the area of a virus scanner & that such... which would you say is the best to use, so long as it isn't Norton Anti-Virus?

I remember installing Norton once (and it was legit too), the damned thing kept replicating itself immediately after install; sapped up over eighty-percent of the hard-drive...

So, would you recommend your Spy-Doctor, AVG, BitDefender, or a series of them all at once?

 

[Thothie]

Ya don't want them all active, all at once, as it causes conflicts. I keep them all around for individual scans. (Bit of a pain with some as you have to enable/disable services each time, plus update.)

Generally I just run with AVG active, as it's the cleanest, lowest system hog - plus it's what I got my folks using, and if something's going to go wrong with it and make me drive out those 40 miles, I like to know ahead of time.

Bitdefender generally has a better virus library, but it's a bit more resource intensive, and their free version doesn't have as many features. I've been considering running it instead though, just since this new system is so mean, when it wants to work.

Norton and McAfee are just about useless these days. Trend Micro PCcillan is just a notch above them. Trend Micro has more extensive virus information than the others though, so if it finds one, you can generally read up on it right quick.

This is the first time Spyware Doctor has ever managed to catch anything for me. It does have some features the others don't (more robust malicious script and active-x detection while browsing). Plus it seems Lavasoft Adaware is rapidly becoming useless (all it ever seems to find is Cookies and MRU's). (I notice AVG can NOW detect this new virus, so it may just be that it hit Spyware Doctor's database first - it's brand new).

The program I like the most is a little proggy called HijackThis - but it's not a virus scanner per say, so much as it just finds every little hook on your system. It's up to you to figure out which ones are legit.

I've an encrypted library of 45 viruses I use to test these things. No one of these programs can find them all, but they are all found by one or more of them. Bitdefender thus far finds the most at 34, but AVG isn't too far behind at 32. Spyware Doctor finds 13 (two of which none of the others can find). Trend Micro finds 22, while Norton and McAfee find like 5 of them, last I checked, all of which are detected by the others.

 

[Netrogor]

kk then, thanks for that input... As to HijackThis, I've known about that for a year and a half to two years now... Jabba enlightened me sometime ago to it

Extremely helpful little program for giving the pink slip to those wasteful, unwanted, adware caused system services that'll startup on their own with your computer