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PBarnum

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we already used a monster from HL (forgot the name, the things in the ms_snow cave)... so... if anything we need that out and a new monster in.
 

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Then how about an easy to make dragon. A chinese dragon doesnt need to much modelling (moslty the head) since they are like flying snakes with/without wings.

Probably pretty hard - Chinese dragon likely harder, as it'd have a lot of snakey bones, but not being a modeler, I dunno fer sure. I do know that animations seems to be the hardest thing to get done - as even Vomica could do that bonless, unanimated dragon you see up there, but animating it may be beyond even Gaz, who is by far our most experienced modeler.

I dunno how hard it would be to convert our T-rex fire lizard model into a dragon (make head smaller, arms larger, stick on wings...) Even "sticking bits on" and changing porpotions seems to be hard, as we've still yet to get ears onto our better looking elf and "skinnyfy" it.

Or how about remodelling the gargantua monster from HL into a three headed dragon? [...] plase explain me better why no gargantuas

Umm... Copyright concerns... Yeah, that's it... (Good one Thoth - surely no one will bring up the fact that this game violated about 30 copyrights when you got to it, and you've stacked on at least 20 more since then...)

It's also true that I can't just reference the valve model directly, I'd have to rip it out, edit it, put in events, and stick it in with the distro. Nevermind the asthetic issues of how well Xen monsters fit in MSC. Might be able to do *something* with it via a heavy reskin though, I dunno - but I think I have better models for every obvious role it could fulfill (Giant golumn, elder earth elemental, etc.) that are copyright free / I have permission to use.
 

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Svencoop had a hydra gargantua.. it was quite cool
 

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Gurluas...

just grab a chair and sit in the corner, dont interject.


ghoul is sounding pretty good right now <3
dragons... D: not so fun, ive tried many a-time.


GHOUL/ZOMBIE/HORROR IT IS THEN!

expect some progress this weekend :D
 

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Vomica7 said:
Gurluas...

just grab a chair and sit in the corner, dont interject.

Can I poke him with a stick when he's in the corner?
 

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I can rig and animate Thothie :)

Its my profession, though admittedly Im only a "Junior Artist" at the moment, *waits for pay rise*

But yeah, I can do the whole shebang :)

My fav part is texturing, and then actually animating once rigged, but rigging is teh suck.

For those that don't understand the term "Rig"
Basically its the process of applying the mesh (triangles) to the bones so that the mesh follows the bones. In HL1 however, its not such a long process as verts (the points that make the triangles) can only have 0% or 100% weighting to a bone. This is quick to do, but leaves undesirable distortion when animating.

In source models, you can have 0% through to 100% weighting, which means that models animate more naturally to the bones. The downside is, weighing up the verts takes a lot longer (a character can take up to a few hours to rig in source!)

Anyway, theres some useless (for most) info to read, lol
 

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ghoulinthepewgd1.jpg


ye or neigh?
 

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Considering the picture is only "Hosted by.." I'm going to give it a neigh.
 

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The Man In Black said:
Considering the picture is only "Hosted by.." I'm going to give it a neigh.


f*cking hell.
 

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Ah, now it works. Yeah, that looks good if you can model it that well ;-)
 

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Ah, now it works. Yeah, that looks good if you can model it that well ;-)

the face is iffy, but the rest should be easy.

YES WEEKEND IS NEAR!
 

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YEAH WEEKEND!!! PARTY!!!!!!!!!!!!! oh wait...I mean work on MS:C....
 

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haha I know. Just got done with finals... so now I can work on map!
 

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i came across this picture, it would make a cool lord undamael.
<3
demon-zombie.jpg
 

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Vomica did you send the bludgeon to gaz?
 

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omg screw the ghoul (im not so good at humans)

ill remake the spider this weekend. <3
:roll:
 

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cant u remake the boar?
i think it needs a remake first.
 

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whyyyyyyyy.......

why the boar... come on gurluas, other things need remade much before that...

IE: BATS, rats(use the low summon rats for all, make bigger for giant rats -.-), ghouls, spiders(erm...didn't gaz say he was gonna do this months ago...o_O), dwarf commoners (reskin of zombehs pl0x), orcs, and possibly other things i'm forgetting...


oh and, that pile of leaves slime could look cool in source, dont give up on it ;)
 

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boars have been neglected almost as long as bludgeons...
they got a new skin but the model is still bad...
 

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gurluas, go find those old demon-boar skins that were displayed on the old site (think it were the first one)...we need to get them re-added >_>

anyways....boars might have a bad model, but its not as noticeable as other things
 

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the spiders are in better conditions than most other stuff AFAIK
 

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fine its a toss up between boars and spiders...
xD spiders will probably be hella easy.
 
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