Thothie, you win. Congratulations.

[Thraxis]

Well theres some pretty stuff in green, and then a lot of ugly stuff in regular black.

The green saves your life, the black holds your doom.

You must touch the black and not the green.

(Go forth and die)

 

[The Man In Black]

Hundreds of thousands* of lines of code, I'd imagine.

There aren't many USEFUL comments that I've really noticed. >_>

 

[brian4]

Is the code indented properly at least?

 

[The Man In Black]

Of course.. That's an automatic process..

 

[brian4]

If you write code in Visual Studio, yes. C++ can also be written in notepad

 

[The Man In Black]

But, as we said, VS2003 is how we write it =|

 

[brian4]

Right, but I heard you guys picked up on the project, you weren't the original developers.

On another note, are older C++ techniques used more often or newer ones, such as using #define (being the old way) used over const (being the newer way)?

I looked at bits of the valveDLL template, and they use #define alot more than const.


Well, I'm off to my computer science class (I'm actually posting while waiting for a class).

 

[The Man In Black]

Depending on the situation, we use #define because it allows for more than just constant variable declaration.

Example: (By far my favorite #define that I use in my CIST programs)
#define foreach(var,max) for( int var = 0; var < max; ++var )

Though, in the code it's "var++"... It really should be changed to ++var, as that's more optimizied. *Glares at Thothie in a kk-change-those-bye way*

 

[Thothie]

Well, it's not just a matter of optimization, it also changes when the var gets increased, which can fubar yonder code, in some instances.

Brain4 is making me feel like a C++ genius. Probably not a good sign.

 

[brian4]

We wouldn't want that ego of yours to get any bigger, now would we Thothie =p

There's always many ways of doing something. Alot of it is personal preference.

P.S. If I got the source code, I'd have to give it to Xjiro, since he's a professional coder I know http://www.xjiro.com/ http://ts.esix.us/ are his sites. Just wanted to make sure this was OK, if I got it. Also, he has no reason to cheat, he doesn't play MS:C, and was only willing to look at the source code and help you guys out a little as a favor to me, since he's cool like that.

P.S.S. Thothy, please don't mess with J-M's character :?

 

[Thothie]

P.S. If I got the source code, I'd have to give it to Xjiro, since he's a professional coder I know http://www.xjiro.com/ http://ts.esix.us/ are his sites. Just wanted to make sure this was OK, if I got it. Also, he has no reason to cheat, he doesn't play MS:C, and was only willing to look at the source code and help you guys out a little as a favor to me, since he's cool like that.

If I had a nickle for every professional coder who has seen this source code and run away screaming, I'd have... ....$6.05 by now.

 

[The Man In Black]

Well, it's not just a matter of optimization, it also changes when the var gets increased, which can fubar yonder code, in some instances.

Brain4 is making me feel like a C++ genius. Probably not a good sign.

I don't mean this to sound insulting.. But, Thothie, you just made me feel like a C++ genius, and that's probably not a good sign

++var vs var++ makes no difference in a for loop, as the increment condition gets called, for the sake of argument, on a line of its own and at the end of the loop. Ye can go try it yerself if ya don't believe me ;-)

 

[Thothie]

Ah, but that depends on the sort of loop you are using, and weather or not the var is altered within it. Tis the same reason I keep telling ye break and continue are not the same thing.

(Granted, I do have a nasty habbit of doing i++ when I could just do ++i, but I'm just sayin, the former is not without function... )

 

[Shurik3n]

Break and continue are very very much not the same thing. Break will exit the entire loop, continue goes to the next increment.

 

[The Man In Black]

Ah, but that depends on the sort of loop you are using, and weather or not the var is altered within it. Tis the same reason I keep telling ye break and continue are not the same thing.

(Granted, I do have a nasty habbit of doing i++ when I could just do ++i, but I'm just sayin, the former is not without function... )

No, it doesn't make a difference...

Equivalence:
int i = 0;
while( i < 5 )
{
++i;
}

for( int i = 0; i < 5; ++i )
{}

Trust me, it does the same thing.


Second, about the break/continue thing...
1. I asked you ONCE and in a "Oh, I think I understand them, now. They do __ right?" and you confirmed.
2. I haven't asked you since. I get them.

 

[brian4]

Ditto on what Shuriken said, although break is also used in switch statements, its not just about ending an iteration of a loop. ++var is prefix and var++ is postfix.

Oh,and here is a quote directly from my C++ text book.
"The older C-style directive of creating named constants is with the #define preprocessor directive. Although it is preferable to use the const modifier, there are programs with the #define directive still in use."

 

[Thothie]

You wanna impress me, tell me how to seperate and track entities and edicts within the server dll.

 

[brian4]

lol we are getting WAYYY off topic. I'd like the source code and with a professional programmer's help, I think I could make a positive contribution to the mod. Thothy, will you send me the source code? (my aim is brianalbin3, and my ingame name is Cornholio)

 

[Thothie]

Go get the HL1SDK. Solve the puzzle mentioned above with a successful compile, and I'll consider handing over the source code.

 

[brian4]

Post a link for the hl1sdk.

 

[CrazyMonkeyDude]

Post a link for the hl1sdk.

It's in the tools tab of steam.

 

[brian4]

collective.valve-erc.com Same site I learned a bit of mapping. n\m.

 

[Dridmar]

Post a link for the hl1sdk.

It's in the tools tab of steam.

Nope it's not there CMD. You have to download it from a website.

 

[Thothie]

It is also on the page of far too much information which gives yonder link.

 

[CrazyMonkeyDude]

Post a link for the hl1sdk.

It's in the tools tab of steam.

Nope it's not there CMD. You have to download it from a website.

Really? I checked, maybe that's not what I thought it was.

Oh, I see. I saw "dedicated server" with the HL1 icon and thought that was the SDK. :X