Elves or Bludgeons

[Gurluas]

Exploring a lost world is an interesting experience both for players and mappers it is a series of map exploring something different, they are going to be open ended maps like Thornlands not gauntlets. I is a reflection of what Leann might be had the Loreldians not banished themselves. Beside as I said Iposatu is compleely detached from Leann, Iposatu cant cross over even in its current form due to the defenses of this plane.

 

[TheOysterHippopotami]

The Shad orcs have been around forever, the story behind them, however, did take on a life of its own. Lanethan at least had a hand in that. He opted to axe the Borsh orcs, and decided to build on Shahaddar's history to give the orc race a shot at "redemption" through this lost tribe, I suppose

What is the story behind the shad orcs? Who is Shadahar?

Exploring a lost world is an interesting experience both for players and mappers it is a series of map exploring something different, they are going to be open ended maps like Thornlands not gauntlets. I is a reflection of what Leann might be had the Loreldians not banished themselves. Beside as I said Iposatu is compleely detached from Leann, Iposatu cant cross over even in its current form due to the defenses of this plane.

I agree with Thothie. New worlds should be absolutely out of the question. The closest thing I could personally accept is venturing to different 'planes' of existence like the soulwell or 'nightmare'/dream realm.

Don't you agree, Gurluas, that the current world map of Daragoth is lacking in the lore deparment? Don't you think our maps need more to explain the current ideas of the Loreldian wars of Fate or the Age of Blood? Don't you think adding new worlds will distract from the already lacking daragoth? Don't you think it will be an excess strain on our resources to have mappers working on some place other than Daragoth?

 

[Gurluas]

The new world is limited. However it adds the possibility to experience something new. And if you dont like it dont play it...Nobody is forcing you :/

I will soon write a memo of what the current planned areas. The new world will be open for other map makers to expand on. It will not be a real world as I said earlier, more a remnant of what once was a world. You have glimpsed part of it already, the boss room in Nashalrath.

 

[FER]

Have you considered learn to use Hammer? If you just wait till someone decides to help you wont get far away with this project.

 

[Gurluas]

Actually I have, however mapping is not my strong side. But for now I'm doing concept and gathering models and music for the new areas.

 

[Stoned]

Gurlaus, have you ever considered to just go off and make your own mod that can/willnot be related to the MSC lore? You will be able to do what ever you want for lore so no need to use another mod's spotlight (im not implying that you are, im just saying).

 

[Gurluas]

I did consider one for my own personal lore
but making a second mod about the fatesworn universe with 4 maps is kinda stupid.

 

[Stoned]

I did consider one for my own personal lore
but making a second mod about the fatesworn universe with 4 maps is kinda stupid.

I was talking about an entirely new mod. One with more than 4 maps.

 

[Gurluas]

I know but as I said, I only have planned 4 maps and a new fatesworn mod set in Daragoth is...Well stupid.

 

[Srgnt Rehab]

It will not be a real world as I said earlier, more a remnant of what once was a world. You have glimpsed part of it already, the boss room in Nashalrath.

It looked a lot like Xen to me... and the entire idea sounds a lot like the Outlands to me... grrr...

 

[Tentadrilus]

No, really, Gurluas, make your own mod. Please.

 

[Gurluas]

It will not be a real world as I said earlier, more a remnant of what once was a world. You have glimpsed part of it already, the boss room in Nashalrath.

It looked a lot like Xen to me... and the entire idea sounds a lot like the Outlands to me... grrr...

Its much better than both.

 

[Thothie]

The new world is limited. However it adds the possibility to experience something new. And if you dont like it dont play it...Nobody is forcing you :/

No, but you're trying to force us to add it.

No, really, Gurluas, make your own mod. Please.

You may as well, as there's no way we're opening gates to other worlds nor sticking angry evil emoticon gods (/like beings) in.

You may has well tell the same story and *not* put it in Daragoth. Since the story can go anywhere, really, and it at least won't be any more out of place anywhere else (hell, it'd fit right in at Rifts), but it also won't raise anyone's 'intellectual property right' hockles.

But no, this isn't compatible with our world, sorry.

You've got the sources to a dozen dead mods I'm sure - you could get one of those up and running enough to work your own story out, no doubt.

 

[Dridmar]

You may as well, as there's no way we're opening gates to other worlds nor sticking angry evil emoticon gods (/like beings) in...But no, this isn't compatible with our world, sorry...

Finally, it took 9 pages. :roll:

 

[Gurluas]

I only got the sources for one which does not an rpg story, and please give this a chance. Read my posts throughly, its not a real new world.
Also first, Iposatu is not an emocticon, second, he is not a god.

However tell you what, give me a sandbox of msc and I will try to make a standalone mappack.

 

[TheOysterHippopotami]

I think I have come up with a fair trade on this issue.

Gurluas - you write your lore and send it to Thothie.

Thothie - You pick it apart like a hyena and choose what you want to keep.

 

[Echo717]

Don't worry oyster, even if this fair trade never happens, I've asked an english major buddy of mine to "analyze" it

 

[Thothie]

What is the story behind the shad orcs? Who is Shadahar?

Ya know... I'm sure I ran over the Shahaddar back-story around here somewhere... But the search, it fails me.

Long story short, before the Age of Blood started, there was a vile wizard named Shahaddar and a "somewhat unbalanced" Urdualian priest, named Zalon, who was obsessed with his destruction. Zalon did finally imprison Shahaddar, but at cost of his own life.

Shahaddar had created, up until then, a series of hide outs and strongholds, the largest surviving of which was Shahaddar Palace, hidden deep in the Aluhandra desert. Many sought the palace for the untold power and treasures held within, but none found it.

Cut to the end of the Age of Blood, when Lor Malgoriand was destroyed. The orc armies were splintered, and in many cases, divided by what remained of The Wall and the elven kingdom - and this was combined with the complication that all their undead allies were suddenly out of control. A large contingent of these orcs, lead by Runegahr, were forced to retreat deep into the Aluhandra desert, and after many months, came upon the magical remains of Shahaddar Palace (for sake of an explanation as to what happened to the Borsh, it maybe that this tribe were them, although I think the original intention was to just strike them from the mythology altogether.)

The weakened orc tribe was forced to hide within the Shahaddar Palace walls for years, fearing detection by the victorious armies arrayed against them. But during that time, the magic of the palace seeped into their bodies, and slowly changed them. The orcs also discovered many magical artifacts hidden within the palace, and learned of their ways. The shamans among the orcs were able to adapt the power as their own, and several of them, in addition to Runegahr, managed to find ways to cheat death (or at least the comparatively short life cycles their creator had granted them). Eventually, the whole tribe was so thoroughly imbued with this power that they became the strongest in all the lands.

But upon finally leaving the palace, the tribe discovered that their newfound powers weakened the further they traveled from it. As such, they confine themselves primarily to the desert surrounding the palace, and have dubbed their tribe, the Shahaddar Orc tribe.

(And if that's the short version, I'd hate to see the long version... >_>)

Suffice to say, Chief Runegahr has tried to put a leash on his people, realizing their position is somewhat vulnerable, should the surrounding kingdoms see his people as a threat. He has instead tried to dedicate his tribe to unlocking more of Shahaddar's secrets, and, to some extent, offer peace to his neighbors. This "peace and study" routine does not sit well with orcish nature, however. They were, after all, bred for war. Thus, the elder Runegahr finds himself in constant contention with the younger members of his tribe, and is faced with the conundrum of having always to dictate from a position of undeniable brute force, while attempting to 'civilize' his people. Most notable among these is the contention between himself and his increasingly popular second in command, Thuldahr.

 

[Gurluas]

What is needed has been posted in the "Writings" section.
Its all I have which opens up to the new maps I am gonna write a memo about.

 

[Thothie]

You may as well, as there's no way we're opening gates to other worlds nor sticking angry evil emoticon gods (/like beings) in...But no, this isn't compatible with our world, sorry...

I realize no matter how many times I quote that, I won't be able to get it through to you. I suppose I could resist the urge to delete your writings and let you go wild in that section, but realize, it's your own world, and it ain't ever working its way in here, so long as you continue to refuse to work within the bounds of ours.

 

[J-M v2.5.5]

Story of the day

After reading this I'm really thinking you should change the name of that golden skeleton in the dark caves from "Shadahar" to Shahaddar".

 

[Stoned]

I only got the sources for one which does not an rpg story, and please give this a chance. Read my posts throughly, its not a real new world.
Also first, Iposatu is not an emocticon, second, he is not a god.

However tell you what, give me a sandbox of msc and I will try to make a standalone mappack.

Once I gain access to my computer I could create a couple models and possibly map for you, I never really tried making character models due to the fact that theres not a single decent character modeling tutorial out there. By the way, don't plan on any sort of content soon as I suspect that I wont have access for a very...very...very long time(several months or in till I get out of school...might even not have it by then). Even when I do get my computer back I would still have to finish up some models for MSC and a map or two. But don't worry, more time equals more planning for said mod right...?(Implying that you will make one).

 

[Srgnt Rehab]

For some reason drama threads like this last a long time...

 

[Gurluas]

You may as well, as there's no way we're opening gates to other worlds nor sticking angry evil emoticon gods (/like beings) in...But no, this isn't compatible with our world, sorry...

I realize no matter how many times I quote that, I won't be able to get it through to you. I suppose I could resist the urge to delete your writings and let you go wild in that section, but realize, it's your own world, and it ain't ever working its way in here, so long as you continue to refuse to work within the bounds of ours.

You want to know my world?
Fine I will show you what my world is so you realize this backstory for a few maps have NOTHING to do with my personal lore and WAS always meant to be part of MS.

Melarak is the planet of the Rashalgalian union composed of the Rashalgalian Empire and the Melarak Republic.
The dogcats of Rashalgalia and Melaraks of Melarak have just achieved peace after a 500 year long war
Autumn6 is the planet of the Autumnian Republic. Autumnians are green slug like humanoid with three red eyes. They are highly technological.

Together those three factions form the triple alliance against Iposatu, destroyer of worlds who assimilates other races and incorporates them in his twisted Iposatian Confederation.

I guess I do not have to write more.
For the last time, give my lore a chance and wait for the memo before you babble about what is MS and what is not.
And the last time, Iposatu is NOT a god...At least not in this lore.

 

[Thothie]

Story of the day

After reading this I'm really thinking you should change the name of that golden skeleton in the dark caves from "Shadahar" to Shahaddar".

That's probably why search failed me.

Darn, I like the first one better too. >_>