Help Mapping

[kray1091]

Yea I have a bad feeling about posting this but

I really would like to map but I cant seem to do it right!

First off, I downloaded Hammer and SDK <- (Dont know what that is) Next I open hammer I downloaded from thothies tut post and this config comes up (Dont know what to put in it) and so maybe someone could help me out by helping me find a "first map experiance" tutorial or telling me step by step on what to do ?


..please?

pst- Theres probaly already been a post like this but to lazy to look

 

[ceriux]

well if u want to map for ms:c you dont use the SDK... theres a old hammer seperate from steam you use. ill get u some links and setup tutorials...

The hammer editor you need


Setup tutorial for hammer

ill get the Other things u might need now.


Compiling tools

Batch Compiler and setup (used to compile your maps)

And a good place for mapping tutorials

need ne thing else just ask ill help with what i can.

 

[kray1091]

Thanks alot man - means alot


Ill be back if I get stuck some where

 

[kray1091]

Alright, Im still stuck In the config. BTW that tut was very helpful but I cannot find half-lifes Textures and I need that to start correct?

Where could I find those?



Another question- about those map compilers I dont know what there used for - have I got that far yet? Im still In the config

 

[ceriux]

the textures are actually files called .wad files the best way i can explain it is its like a buncha textures all zipped up in like a zip file but its called a "wad" XD that would be in your main msc folder "half-life/msc"

if thats not what your talking about please take a pic and post it here. ill help with what i can but im kinda limited on time cause im still at work and this is my 30 min break so -.-

 

[kray1091]

Thanks thats what I was talking about

 

[kray1091]

Alright awsome Im finally Inside Hammer and apple to make whatever.
- Now for me .. find a tut on Creating a first map
(Im making a small test map on HL1 First before making in Msc)

 

[ceriux]

go back to the tutorial site i gave u they have begginer tutorials there that teach you how to do everything basic then once your comfortable with that. head back and read some more of theyre more advanced tutorials.


oh and about the compiler, and the compiling tools those are used to compile your saved maps from hammer into bsp files which msc and all hl1/hl1 mods use to run your maps.

 

[kray1091]

Ah Ok I figured that - thanks

 

[ceriux]

Might also want to check this out.

 

[kray1091]

hmm when I apply the textures to my first MAP!!! =)! it turns green , then i put my spawn point in (did it correctly too). Then shortly after when I was launching the map it dosnt load after pressing start server so im thinking that the textures didnt apply. In the tutorial it showed the textures but on myn none are shown just lines turn green.
Gulp* help?





TUT i used

http://www.snarkpit.net/editing.php?page=tutorials&game=HL&id=184

 

[kray1091]

Might also want to check this out.

Im startin off with half life 1- But thanks that will be useful later

 

[ceriux]

did you try and launch your hl1 map with hl1 entities through msc? cause then it wont load. atleast from what i know... and if you used custom textues make sure the wad file is in the same folder as the mod your useing... umm other than that im not really sure ... if i cant figure it out try Pming, J-M , Crow, or Thothie.

 

[kray1091]

did you try and launch your hl1 map with hl1 entities through msc?.

No I didnt, But just now recently I decided just to start off with msc
I have a few questions

I have made a small test map but
- How do I make a player entity spawn (Begin,start) point? - I saw in thothies guide but where do I put that information at? in (right click properties? key/ value?)

Basicly I need help with thothies guide (http://www.msremake.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1100) there - Since its not HL entitys I dont know how to create raw entitys :?

 

[ceriux]

no, u have to use the MSC FGD also found in the MSC folder. with that it will have all of the entitie's you need. including monster spawn , area transitions, and about ne thing else. u just place them and make sure theyre about the ground.

well in the enities list all except for the monster spawn. that you place it and make a box with the aaa trigger and apply an entitie to that and make sure that theyre setup correctly with each other.

 

[Thothie]

did you try and launch your hl1 map with hl1 entities through msc?.

No I didnt, But just now recently I decided just to start off with msc
I have a few questions

I have made a small test map but
- How do I make a player entity spawn (Begin,start) point? - I saw in thothies guide but where do I put that information at? in (right click properties? key/ value?)

Basicly I need help with thothies guide (http://www.msremake.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1100) there - Since its not HL entitys I dont know how to create raw entitys :?

Add MS1.4.fgd from your msc/dev folder to hammer and do as follows:






Sorry to be so condescending, been making tutorials for peeps who can't read lately.

My MS tutorial, in addition to being dated, is intended for people who already know how to use Hammer, as the disclaimer at the top of it states. But there should be some useful links for nubs therein.

 

[ceriux]

Thothie i have a question for u actually... i believe i set up my editor completely correctly,considering i can compile and play my maps. but my models dont show up in the editor just boxes... (i mean the one like in ur pic with the spawn entitie.) mind helpin me out lol...

 

[Thothie]

Ya need the Hammer 3.5 update... Gosh if I can rememeber where it is though...

 

[ceriux]

Ya need the Hammer 3.5 update... Gosh if I can rememeber where it is though...

ok thnx heh... ill find it GOOGLE

 

[kray1091]

no, u have to use the MSC FGD also found in the MSC folder. with that it will have all of the entitie's you need. including monster spawn , area transitions, and about ne thing else. u just place them and make sure theyre about the ground..

Thanks got that now-

Ok this is what I was talking about I couldnt see the textures in hammer (I compared to the tutorial Screenshot and myn)

<--- Sorry my screen shots are horrible

 

[ceriux]

no, u have to use the MSC FGD also found in the MSC folder. with that it will have all of the entitie's you need. including monster spawn , area transitions, and about ne thing else. u just place them and make sure theyre about the ground..

Thanks got that now-

Ok this is what I was talking about I couldnt see the textures in hammer (I compared to the tutorial Screenshot and myn)

<--- Sorry my screen shots are horrible

oh at the top left hand side click camera or w/e it says and click one of the textured modes.

 

[kray1091]

oh at the top left hand side click camera or w/e it says and click one of the textured modes.

Thanks man

 

[J-M v2.5.5]

Ya need the Hammer 3.5 update... Gosh if I can rememeber where it is though...

Hammer v3.5 beta test build 04
http://collective.valve-erc.com/data/do ... uild04.zip

Half-Life FGD version 02 (you need this for in-editor model rendering, just replace the old FGD with this)
http://collective.valve-erc.com/data/do ... fgd_02.zip

And of course you need the Zoner's Half-Life Tools v3.4 Final, the best compiling tools on the planet
http://downloads.ammahls.com/zhlt/x86/z ... 6final.zip

 

[kray1091]

Which One of those tools turns the .map into a .bsp? because I still cannot play my maps I get that same error above ("X map still not found on server"

 

[J-M v2.5.5]

You need to make sure to put the compiled map (BSP file) in your maps folder.