Cutting off the head of the snake...

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Tbh that was uncalled for. J-M has supported this game for over a decade and has been a good person.

I don't know if he really spread these cheats, but did you try speaking to him?
I still find it fishy.
 

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Do you have proof that he was behind this?
 

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Justice must still be served just.
Proof must be presented.
 

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It's not a f*cking court system, the developers of the mod voted and he was banned. That's it.
 

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Essentially the developers blamed J-M for their shortcomings. Because somebody they've never met posting silent walls of text, telling people not to exploit or cheat, assisting new players and keeping them interested in the game, thus further building the community base, is obviously at fault for everything that's gone wrong or couldn't be done in two weeks time.

The accusations of his cheating/exploiting are nothing more than the cherries on top, to "help justify" removing him without throwing the community into complete pandemonium.

I'll likely be called a troll, as that is the best Team DonkeyBallZ can come up with, even though they make a regular game of insulting others in place of having a reasonable discussion.

I digress - the shortcomings of half-assed video game developers shouldn't be blamed on whoever they happen to be e-Raging at.

EDIT:
Remember - Thothie said he wanted us to put our rage in here. Which I have done so. This way it won't spill out across ze forums.
 

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this thread never ends

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Just best to ignore this thread you know, it isn't going to change sh!t with all this bumping other than make more flaming/trolling/dumb/arrogant/haigusyimkewl posts.

We all know in what we should believe in right here, so let's keep it at that. Part of the community believes that this was all BS, another part of it supported with whatever cause/accusation that was behind the ban. So it's like the community is even more corrupt now than it was before. Good job. What's done is done, time to move on...

Warning:
Inb4 Rideon comes here bragging about his raer items and/or make pointless bumps.
 

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I don't think this thread needs to be ignored, it is a place to vent your frustrations.

I guess I'll throw out my 2 cents on the subject. I treat this the same as the Shuri incident, if the evidence is there then tough sh!t I guess. I really doubt the dev's would make some BS excuse to ban him this late in the game when MiB already stated he would have done it in an instant if he wanted to ages ago. And this is not to knock JM as a person, I actually really like him outside the game setting (he has legit music taste) but hey, I've seen good people do bad things and bad people do good things (I think that's a song too), so I wouldn't put any type of action past anybody. We are all humans, we all miss the mark from time to time.

If the dev's believe this is the right choice for the game's sake, then heck, they've been doing a pretty good job at building it up to this point, I have no reason to really doubt their decision making abilities. I really don't see why there is a huge outrage on this, if JM really wanted to start playing again, couldn't he just cough up the $10 it cost to buy HL and start playing again? I don't know, I really think things are getting blown out of proportion just like Shuri incident.

All in all, does it suck? Sure. Will life go on? Yes.
 

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Red Cell said:
I don't think this thread needs to be ignored, it is a place to vent your frustrations.

We are all humans, we all miss the mark from time to time.

if JM really wanted to start playing again, couldn't he just cough up the $10 it cost to buy HL and start playing again?

Will life go on? Yes.

If that's the case, then use this: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=6423
It's offtopic, not general discussion, started by him, not a dev and the best reason for this, it won't be causing trouble.

True that.

Perhaps he noticed it wasn't worth it anymore? Or perhaps he only cared to play with people he trusted in, which in return made him do things that the devs didn't like? If i was in his position right now and get banned, i would likely leave and never come back aswell. Pretty pointless if you return after a ban of this kind.

Sure does.
 

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zeus9860 said:
If that's the case, then use this: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=6423
It's offtopic, not general discussion, started by him, not a dev and the best reason for this, it won't be causing trouble.

See the thing is, if I did that, then it would be going against the first post of this thread:

Thothie said:
You're free to b*tch about this, but keep it to THIS thread - I don't even want to see a hint of this drama cluttering up the other threads, save maybe BOU's, and even there, only insomuch as required to settle the leadership issues.

So it should be kept to this thread, and I believe that it's healthy to get out frustration.
 

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See the thing is, it was a thread started by a BoU member. So no harm done?

This is annoying as hell if you ask me, if you think having this thread up will help the community in anyway possible, you are wrong.

Picture what happened when a certain thread about a certain person getting banned, that thread got locked and dropped, this one diserves the same fate. It's basically the same deal here, if you keep this thread on going, it's insulting people rather than make them loose their frustration, like, building more frustration than they already have... get it? I don't see what's the problem with locking this thread and sent it NML already, other than annoy the sh!t out of people with the same subject over and over.
 

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How is it better to continue the exact same discussion in another thread, designed for (almost) the exact same purpose?

And even though the other thread was
zeus9860 said:
started by a BoU member. So no harm done?
Why does the fact that it was started by a BoU member have anything to do with going against the first post of this thread?
 

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Who said that the discussion was meant to be continued somewhere else...?

My entire point with all of this sh!t is that, you should lock this thread and drop the subject already, because it's part of someone who got banned and he diserves to be no different from shuriken, who got his thread locked and NML'd. There is no point having this thread open for necroing by whoever decides to dig these forums.
Also, i pointed that other thread because it doesn't break any rules that Redcell/Thothie is concerned about. So why not just lock this and bump that vent thread for all your "frustration needs"?


tl;dr
Lock thread, drop subject, use vent thread for frustration related subjects, both sides win, done.
 

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The two events are entirely different, the only similarity being somebody was banned. This thread was started by the mod leader, not a guy posting 'evidence' in a ridiculously dramatic manner after he was told admins were handling it. And J-M's banning does relate to 'general discussion' because he had a profound effect on the game; and seeing as he was the leader of the most popular MS:C guild, that even further reinforces the point that this belongs in general discussion of the mod.

I really don't know why this is bothering you so much zeus, along with a bunch of other small crap lately. :|
 

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Yeah I noticed he's been a bit b!tchy lately. Must be that time of the month for him.
 

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This thread, in loving mammary of a fellow gif abuser.
I'll never be good with my gifs :oldcry:

Not to start a fight or anything, but JM had a lot of good gifs
 
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