FIX KELEDROS!

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1> fix it then why don'tcha
Recompiling/redistro of the map and giving all the old package users "your map does not match the server" errors is not worth it for such a minor flaw. In MSC 1.1, all the maps we have sources for will be recompiled, Keledosruins, being among them.

> It always goes through the wall -_-
Keledros has only 3 spells that go through walls, 2 of which, you will only see in special circumstances:
1) Firewall - firewall always appears at the last point Keledros was looking at, regardless if a wall interviened. But you have 2 seconds before it manifests. Even frozen, this is usually enough time. (Even if it's not, it's always more than enough time to raise your shield)

2) Lightning Bolt - not to confused with Lightning Storm (which is a cloud with a bunch if little bolts), Keledros will ONLY hit you with this if you climb the stairs for a higher vantage point to hit him, as he has only one other spell he can hit you with from up there (plus his use of certain spells above him causes server to go crashie, so he does this intead)

3) Deathmagic - Keledros only uses this if there are so many active spells cast by other players that spell spam control prevents him from doing anything else.

3>No, he casts blizzard but he SHOOTS lightning storm i.s.o. blizzard and then freezes you at the same time for some reason.
Never seen that. Also can't seem to duplicate it. And shouldn't be possible, as his primary spells (l.storm/blizzard/firewall/summon) are fixed at 1/7 seconds.

4> 200 damage isn't my idea of low.
Keledros only has 3 spells that do that level of damage instantly (lightning bolt, fireball, and death magic), and you will not see them, lest you a) flood the spam filter with too many spells, b) climb above him, or c) hit him with holy magic.
 

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Thothie said:
1> fix it then why don'tcha
Recompiling/redistro of the map and giving all the old package users "your map does not match the server" errors is not worth it for such a minor flaw. In MSC 1.1, all the maps we have sources for will be recompiled, Keledosruins, being among them.

> It always goes through the wall -_-
Keledros has only 3 spells that go through walls, 2 of which, you will only see in special circumstances:
1) Firewall - firewall always appears at the last point Keledros was looking at, regardless if a wall interviened. But you have 2 seconds before it manifests. Even frozen, this is usually enough time. (Even if it's not, it's always more than enough time to raise your shield)

2) Lightning Bolt - not to confused with Lightning Storm (which is a cloud with a bunch if little bolts), Keledros will ONLY hit you with this if you climb the stairs for a higher vantage point to hit him, as he has only one other spell he can hit you with from up there (plus his use of certain spells above him causes server to go crashie, so he does this intead)

3) Deathmagic - Keledros only uses this if there are so many active spells cast by other players that spell spam control prevents him from doing anything else.

3>No, he casts blizzard but he SHOOTS lightning storm i.s.o. blizzard and then freezes you at the same time for some reason.
Never seen that. Also can't seem to duplicate it. And shouldn't be possible, as his primary spells (l.storm/blizzard/firewall/summon) are fixed at 1/7 seconds.

4> 200 damage isn't my idea of low.
Keledros only has 3 spells that do that level of damage instantly (lightning bolt, fireball, and death magic), and you will not see them, lest you a) flood the spam filter with too many spells, b) climb above him, or c) hit him with holy magic.

Ok, go check it yourself.
 

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I did, killed him eight times, in twenty minutes (with the level 37 mind you), and not once did I get any of the behavior you describe. Nor have I heard anyone else describe any odd behavior for him in ages. Near as I can tell, he's working exactally as he should (save for the bit where he faces you while playing dead). If you want to give me a FRAPS of him doing otherwise, I'll be interested.
 

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Killing Keledros is my favorite hobby and I've never seen what you're saying. BUT he used to be real hard, bugged, and to do a ton of damage...In the firsts versions of MSC. Are you sure you've downloaded the beta package from Thothie's site and the few other updates? (Can't think of another possible reason)

P.S. Please, show some respect to Thothie, he's working hard on this mod and made it so greater than it used to be, and I think he deserves it.
 

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I agree with HumanSteak, give thothie a chance. All games got bugs, and that's just how it is.

I just killed keledros aswell, didnt even die once, and I'm lvl 27.
 

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agreed. thothie owns
 

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There are tons and tons of bugs left to kill...

...Keledros just isn't one of them. ;)

It'd be nice to move all his infernal armors to the floor level, and stop him from turning while playing dead, but those are two minor issues I've not bothered to spend the time on. Other than those, and the map flaw, he's golden.
 
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